Yes -- in USA Hockey, the goalie can change as many times as they want,
including to take a penalty shot. The only restriction is when they
change at a whistle (goalie-for-goalie -- goalie-for-player or
player-for-goalie can occur at any time).
NCAA rules are the same.
--david
On 3/28/21 3:30 PM, Doug Peterson wrote:
> It appears the goalie can return, at least according to USA Hockey rules.
>
> *(d)* A goalkeeper may be substituted for by another goalkeeper or
> player (who shall not have goalkeeper privileges) during a stoppage
> provided the change occurs within the line change procedure outlined
> in Rule 205(a).
>
> When the substitute goalkeeper enters the game he will take his
> position without delay and no warm-up shall be permitted, except when
> either team uses its time-out under Rule 636[f]. The original
> goalkeeper may not return to play until the next stoppage of play. For
> a violation, the offending team shall be assessed a bench minor
> penalty for illegal substitution.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug Peterson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Lewin
> Sent: Mar 28, 2021 4:05 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: UMD-ND
>
> I didn’t think UMD switched goalies because he was tired; the
> announcers said that the goalie was cramping up and just couldn’t
> continue. How would you feel as a back up goalie coming in to a
> situation like that? Thrilled? Scared S$$less? I was wondering
> whether the rules in hockey are like those in soccer or baseball.
> If the goalie came out and was able to hydrate well, could they
> have put him back in? Or once he was out, he wasn’t allowed back in.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Mar 28, 2021, at 15:05, David Parter <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> That's what happens in long overtimes... if there isn't a goal
>> early in the (first) overtime, the game winner is more likely to
>> be a sloppy goal due to fatigue.
>>
>> I think coaches in tournament overtimes have interesting
>> strategic choices:
>> - put out your top line(s) to try and win it early?
>> - go with your regular lines, to keep everyone somewhat fresh?
>> - at some point, if you see an opportunity put out your 3rd or
>> 4th line, because they are fresh and the other team's
>> 1st or 2nd line isn't?
>>
>> Do you switch from your top line to a more normal rotation before
>> the other team does? Is your double-shifted 1st line better than
>> their 3rd line?
>>
>> Of course, it all depends on your team, and the situation in that
>> game. How tired are they? How deep is your roster? What are the
>> ice conditions? ...
>>
>> I don't think i've heard of a team changing goalies for long
>> overtimes, that would be a bold move.
>>
>> --david
>>
>> On 3/28/21 11:28 AM, Mark Lewin wrote:
>>> I agree totally. There was nothing spectacular about the
>>> winning shot. It was a mental mistake on the part of the UND
>>> goalie. Not detracting from his performance. Although he
>>> doesn’t expend his physical energy as much as a forward or
>>> defenseman, he needs to keep mentally alert and doesn’t get a
>>> rest on the bench during line changes. After 3 periods plus 5
>>> overtime periods, the ability to focus mentally is just as
>>> impaired as the ability to skate and shoot. I’m sure that last
>>> goal will haunt this poor kid for the rest of his life. But the
>>> team in front of him didn’t score the winning goal and the team
>>> in front of him didn’t defend against the UMD player who scored
>>> the winning goal. It’s really true what the coaches say: you
>>> win as a team and you lose as a team.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Mar 28, 2021, at 12:06, Tom Rowe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As I sit and think about it more, I suspect goalie fatigue
>>>> played a role. The shot was not fully screened, wasn't a
>>>> screamer, and the goalie (name escapes me) just didn't get his
>>>> 5-hole closed quick enough. I really think earlier in the game
>>>> he would have stopped that shot. That brings to mind, did ND
>>>> have a fresh second goalie they could have put in? Or do you
>>>> folks see it differently.
>>>>
>>>> *Tom Rowe*
>>>> =====================================================
>>>> The water never clears up until you get the hogs out of the creek.
>>>>
>>>> /Excelsior Ad Astra!
>>>> ======================================================/
>>>> On 3/28/2021 10:31 AM, Robert Woodbury wrote:
>>>>> At the 2nd OT intermission, I fell unknowingly asleep. When I
>>>>> woke up, I didn’t realize I had been asleep (the joys of old
>>>>> age), thinking the 3rd overtime was coming up. Then I saw the
>>>>> final score of the Minnesota game. That couldn’t be. The start
>>>>> of the 3rd OT and the Minnesota third period would both start
>>>>> at about the same time. There was a never-ending series of
>>>>> commercials, then back to the intermission hosts who said
>>>>> nothing about where we were in the game, more commercials,
>>>>> then the game. She almost I’m mediately said it was the start
>>>>> of the 5th OT. That got my attention. Had I really slept
>>>>> through the 3rd and 4th OTs? Yes. The Dogs scored quickly, I
>>>>> smiled, turned off the TV and lights and resumed resting until
>>>>> 9:30 this morning. The joys of a hockey fan.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2021, at 1:51 AM, Tom Rowe <[log in to unmask]
>>>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow. Just, Wow. Shattered the OT record (although not the
>>>>>> longest game I ever witnessed). I sure thought ND was going
>>>>>> to pull it out, but UMD got one screened shot home. Hope
>>>>>> everyone had a chance to watch it live.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *Tom Rowe*
>>>>>> =====================================================
>>>>>> The water never clears up until you get the hogs out of the
>>>>>> creek.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /Excelsior Ad Astra!
>>>>>> ======================================================/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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