Yes -- in USA Hockey, the goalie can change as many times as they want, including to take a penalty shot. The only restriction is when they change at a whistle (goalie-for-goalie -- goalie-for-player or player-for-goalie can occur at any time). NCAA rules are the same. --david On 3/28/21 3:30 PM, Doug Peterson wrote: > It appears the goalie can return, at least according to USA Hockey rules. > > *(d)* A goalkeeper may be substituted for by another goalkeeper or > player (who shall not have goalkeeper privileges) during a stoppage > provided the change occurs within the line change procedure outlined > in Rule 205(a). > > When the substitute goalkeeper enters the game he will take his > position without delay and no warm-up shall be permitted, except when > either team uses its time-out under Rule 636[f]. The original > goalkeeper may not return to play until the next stoppage of play. For > a violation, the offending team shall be assessed a bench minor > penalty for illegal substitution. > > > Thanks, > > Doug Peterson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Lewin > Sent: Mar 28, 2021 4:05 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: UMD-ND > > I didn’t think UMD switched goalies because he was tired; the > announcers said that the goalie was cramping up and just couldn’t > continue. How would you feel as a back up goalie coming in to a > situation like that? Thrilled? Scared S$$less? I was wondering > whether the rules in hockey are like those in soccer or baseball. > If the goalie came out and was able to hydrate well, could they > have put him back in? Or once he was out, he wasn’t allowed back in. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 28, 2021, at 15:05, David Parter <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> >> That's what happens in long overtimes... if there isn't a goal >> early in the (first) overtime, the game winner is more likely to >> be a sloppy goal due to fatigue. >> >> I think coaches in tournament overtimes have interesting >> strategic choices: >> - put out your top line(s) to try and win it early? >> - go with your regular lines, to keep everyone somewhat fresh? >> - at some point, if you see an opportunity put out your 3rd or >> 4th line, because they are fresh and the other team's >> 1st or 2nd line isn't? >> >> Do you switch from your top line to a more normal rotation before >> the other team does? Is your double-shifted 1st line better than >> their 3rd line? >> >> Of course, it all depends on your team, and the situation in that >> game. How tired are they? How deep is your roster? What are the >> ice conditions? ... >> >> I don't think i've heard of a team changing goalies for long >> overtimes, that would be a bold move. >> >> --david >> >> On 3/28/21 11:28 AM, Mark Lewin wrote: >>> I agree totally. There was nothing spectacular about the >>> winning shot. It was a mental mistake on the part of the UND >>> goalie. Not detracting from his performance. Although he >>> doesn’t expend his physical energy as much as a forward or >>> defenseman, he needs to keep mentally alert and doesn’t get a >>> rest on the bench during line changes. After 3 periods plus 5 >>> overtime periods, the ability to focus mentally is just as >>> impaired as the ability to skate and shoot. I’m sure that last >>> goal will haunt this poor kid for the rest of his life. But the >>> team in front of him didn’t score the winning goal and the team >>> in front of him didn’t defend against the UMD player who scored >>> the winning goal. It’s really true what the coaches say: you >>> win as a team and you lose as a team. >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Mar 28, 2021, at 12:06, Tom Rowe <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> >>>> As I sit and think about it more, I suspect goalie fatigue >>>> played a role. The shot was not fully screened, wasn't a >>>> screamer, and the goalie (name escapes me) just didn't get his >>>> 5-hole closed quick enough. I really think earlier in the game >>>> he would have stopped that shot. That brings to mind, did ND >>>> have a fresh second goalie they could have put in? Or do you >>>> folks see it differently. >>>> >>>> *Tom Rowe* >>>> ===================================================== >>>> The water never clears up until you get the hogs out of the creek. >>>> >>>> /Excelsior Ad Astra! >>>> ======================================================/ >>>> On 3/28/2021 10:31 AM, Robert Woodbury wrote: >>>>> At the 2nd OT intermission, I fell unknowingly asleep. When I >>>>> woke up, I didn’t realize I had been asleep (the joys of old >>>>> age), thinking the 3rd overtime was coming up. Then I saw the >>>>> final score of the Minnesota game. That couldn’t be. The start >>>>> of the 3rd OT and the Minnesota third period would both start >>>>> at about the same time. There was a never-ending series of >>>>> commercials, then back to the intermission hosts who said >>>>> nothing about where we were in the game, more commercials, >>>>> then the game. She almost I’m mediately said it was the start >>>>> of the 5th OT. That got my attention. Had I really slept >>>>> through the 3rd and 4th OTs? Yes. The Dogs scored quickly, I >>>>> smiled, turned off the TV and lights and resumed resting until >>>>> 9:30 this morning. The joys of a hockey fan. >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 28, 2021, at 1:51 AM, Tom Rowe <[log in to unmask] >>>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Wow. Just, Wow. Shattered the OT record (although not the >>>>>> longest game I ever witnessed). I sure thought ND was going >>>>>> to pull it out, but UMD got one screened shot home. Hope >>>>>> everyone had a chance to watch it live. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> *Tom Rowe* >>>>>> ===================================================== >>>>>> The water never clears up until you get the hogs out of the >>>>>> creek. >>>>>> >>>>>> /Excelsior Ad Astra! >>>>>> ======================================================/ >>>>> >>>> >>