In a message dated 06/22/2000 12:33:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<<  I would like to add that the Church dogma dictates the
 doctrine of transubstantiation or in layman's terms, the bread and wine ARE
 actually the body and blood of Christ in "real presence" in this Blessed
 Sacrament, these Communion elements esp. the consecrated Host. >>

in addition to which, if one arrives at mass after the consecration of the
host, one is deemed to have missed the mass.  the principal raison d'être for
the mass is said consecration, so to attempt to meaningfully distinguish
between the two is, well, ignorant.  I am, of course, referring to the mass
as it existed in Pound's day.

joe...