Re: Auguries of Innocence
93 The questioner, who sits so sly,
94 Shall never know how to reply.
--- [log in to unmask] wrote:
> Cf. Blake's "questioner who sits so sly...." (quoted
> from memory) -- maybe
> RF knew that line.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Loucks
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University
> of Maine
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> charles moyer
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:39 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Imagism and Joyce
>
> Kate,
> In this vein you may want to look at Pound's
> "Confucius", particularly
> the "Chung Yung : The Unwobbling Pivot".
>
> Charles
>
> ----------
> >From: Kate Cone <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Imagism and Joyce
> >Date: Wed, Mar 13, 2002, 4:48 AM
> >
>
> > Tim:
> >
> > I've been reading C's poetry and bio's for over 30
> years. In fact, as a
> > result of my research and inquiries to Jay Parini
> at Middlebury, a Frost
> > scholar and biographer, I've been asked to write
> the Cummings article for
> > the Oxford Encyclopedia of American Literature,
> which Parini is editing.
> > (wheeee!!!)
> >
> > Frost I knew as all American students do -- the
> anthologized poems. I
> loved
> > the imagery, but didn't "get" how deep they were
> then. But one little poem
> > hit me a different way:
> >
> > The Secret Sits
> >
> > We dance 'round a ring and suppose.
> > The secret sits in the middle and knows.
> >
> > Frost
> >
> > ****
> >
> > seeker of truth
> >
> > follow no path
> > all paths lead where
> >
> > truth is here
> >
> > Cummings
> >
> > ****
> >
> > At first I thought of this type of poem as having
> a Zen influence, but on
> > further investigation I learned that both C and F
> were tremendously
> > influenced by Emerson, whose essay "Circles"
> pretty much pegs the notion
> of
> > coming back: "I keep and pass and turn again."
> (Brahma).
> >
> > Anyway, the nature poetry of C and F are the most
> alike in that regard.
> > Where Pound comes in: he was among some other
> influential poets met in
> > England and was instrumental in getting Frost's
> first two books
> > well-reviewed in England, essentially "making"
> Frost the first and perhaps
> > only best-selling American poet of the 20th
> century. As a young poet at
> > Harvard, Cummings' notebooks show a keen interest
> in being part of the
> > imagist movement.
> >
> > I guess what I'm asking for are any thoughts at
> all about Pound's
> influence
> > and/or dealings with either Frost or Cummings. And
> with regard to Mr.
> > Savage's comment about Frost's poor treatment of
> Pound -- if you could
> > elaborate further on that/those incident/s, it
> would give me more insight
> --
> > was Frost abandoning a poet who helped him in
> order to "lay low" from
> > controversy? This will further my theory that
> Frost "invented" himself as
> a
> > Yankee farmer poet and didn't want to rock any
> boat by being involved
> > (publicly) in the politics of the day. Cummings
> was much more "in your
> > face."
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Kate
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tim Romano" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: Imagism and Joyce
> >
> >
> >> Kate,
> >> What do you think their work has in common? I see
> no similarity, though I
> >> must admit that I don't know cummings's work
> inside and out.
> >> Tim Romano
> >>
> >> Kate Cone wrote:
> >>
> >> >I am writing my masters thesis on how E.E.
> Cummings and Robert Frost's
> >> >poetry are related.
> >>
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