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Bobalong,

   Tasty, eh? May find Marx amid the back shelvers there. Various opiates to
thank "God" fer in resentment's endless struggle for quantity over quality.
Contempt, gift from elsewhere. Over-interpretation beyond mere
paranoia perhaps result of troublesome vision of Cadmean/ younger futhark
alphabets and Gravesian lunisolar tree calendar. No mythic wind is any
historical king's wind. EP and overman? sure why not? Beer-drinking Mencken
did "Anti-Christ". Old Possum slithered back into his Parzival pew in
Chandalaland after he shed his Jessie Weston skin which might have served
him longer had he not.......scared himself with first bite?

"the case presents no adjunct to the muses' diadem", but great coffee house
blather

    "We are Hyperboreans...we got our knowledge of it from thousands of
years in the labyrinth." FN

Sante,
-Moyer
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>From: bob scheetz <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Emerson- Pound
>Date: Tue, Jan 14, 2003, 9:44 PM
>

> -Moyer,
>     ...how would i know without i had the taste?  ...tho, thank god, am
> still mostly capable of syntax.  Why th paranoid over-interpretation?
> ...don't consider Sigismundo up to Sigfried? ...don't consider EP up to
> thinking the overman?....
>
>     Kindly tell me what insult awaits on the back shelf at Borders.  Please,
> don't make me go There.
>
> cheers,
> bob
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: charles moyer <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 4:22 AM
> Subject: Re: Emerson- Pound
>
>
>> "the old wagnerian/nietzchean intoxication"? whoa! obviously sober judge
>> hypocrite hunter Yotabob, head in a vacuum which way in a vacuum, has
>> listened not too much to former nor read much of latter, no? Hoi Barbaroi
>> have not yet destroyed these works thought one must find their Elysium in
>> the Halls of Hades or on the back shelf at Borders, no?
>>
>> -Moyer
>>
>>
>> ----------
>> >From: bob scheetz <[log in to unmask]>
>> >To: [log in to unmask]
>> >Subject: Re: Emerson- Pound
>> >Date: Mon, Jan 13, 2003, 11:04 PM
>> >
>>
>> > Tim,
>> >      Is the complaint in Mauberley against war?  or,  this war?  waged
> by
>> > this "tawdry," "old bitch"(Victorian-Edwardian) regnum?  there's a
> genuine
>> > pathos/reverence for the myriad "daring", fortitude", "frankness as
> never
>> > before", who went out, died, or returned, "disillusioned as never
> before",
>> > no?
>> >      And in contrast to vapid victorian whiggery, in the Cantos, is
> there
>> > any other character, tableau, theme,... can match the presence of the
> image
>> > of the warlord Sigismundo, the great-souled warrior hero, and Rimini?
> and
>> > don't we see here pound's ideal polis/regnum?  and in Il Duce, the
> return?
>> > Isn't it the old wagnerian/nietzschean intoxication?
>> >
>> >
>> > bob
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Tim Romano <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 8:48 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Emerson- Pound
>> >
>> >
>> >> An interesting post, bob.  Could you describe what you mean by 'the
>> >> military ethos' and say why you think Pound found it irresistible?
> Are
>> >> there places in his work where Pound reveals himself to be drawn to the
>> >> military ethos? How would you assimilate into this view poems from the
> WWI
>> >> period, such as Hugh Selwyn Mauberley iv. "These fought in any case..."
>> > and
>> >> v. "There died a myriad..."? Did Pound's anti-war attitudes undergo a
>> >> sea-change in the 1920s and '30s?
>> >> Tim Romano
>> >>
>> >> At 10:59 PM 1/12/03 -0500, bob scheetz wrote:
>> >> >  And presumably, since the latter's [populism's] reactionism harked
> back
>> >> > principally to military ethos, Pound was irresistably drawn.

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