-Moyer,
    ...how would i know without i had the taste?  ...tho, thank god, am
still mostly capable of syntax.  Why th paranoid over-interpretation?
...don't consider Sigismundo up to Sigfried? ...don't consider EP up to
thinking the overman?....

    Kindly tell me what insult awaits on the back shelf at Borders.  Please,
don't make me go There.

cheers,
bob




----- Original Message -----
From: charles moyer <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: Emerson- Pound


> "the old wagnerian/nietzchean intoxication"? whoa! obviously sober judge
> hypocrite hunter Yotabob, head in a vacuum which way in a vacuum, has
> listened not too much to former nor read much of latter, no? Hoi Barbaroi
> have not yet destroyed these works thought one must find their Elysium in
> the Halls of Hades or on the back shelf at Borders, no?
>
> -Moyer
>
>
> ----------
> >From: bob scheetz <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Emerson- Pound
> >Date: Mon, Jan 13, 2003, 11:04 PM
> >
>
> > Tim,
> >      Is the complaint in Mauberley against war?  or,  this war?  waged
by
> > this "tawdry," "old bitch"(Victorian-Edwardian) regnum?  there's a
genuine
> > pathos/reverence for the myriad "daring", fortitude", "frankness as
never
> > before", who went out, died, or returned, "disillusioned as never
before",
> > no?
> >      And in contrast to vapid victorian whiggery, in the Cantos, is
there
> > any other character, tableau, theme,... can match the presence of the
image
> > of the warlord Sigismundo, the great-souled warrior hero, and Rimini?
and
> > don't we see here pound's ideal polis/regnum?  and in Il Duce, the
return?
> > Isn't it the old wagnerian/nietzschean intoxication?
> >
> >
> > bob
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tim Romano <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 8:48 AM
> > Subject: Re: Emerson- Pound
> >
> >
> >> An interesting post, bob.  Could you describe what you mean by 'the
> >> military ethos' and say why you think Pound found it irresistible?
Are
> >> there places in his work where Pound reveals himself to be drawn to the
> >> military ethos? How would you assimilate into this view poems from the
WWI
> >> period, such as Hugh Selwyn Mauberley iv. "These fought in any case..."
> > and
> >> v. "There died a myriad..."? Did Pound's anti-war attitudes undergo a
> >> sea-change in the 1920s and '30s?
> >> Tim Romano
> >>
> >> At 10:59 PM 1/12/03 -0500, bob scheetz wrote:
> >> >  And presumably, since the latter's [populism's] reactionism harked
back
> >> > principally to military ethos, Pound was irresistably drawn.