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Tim,

  "Illuminate the intellectual history of the period", eh?  But if we go
looking for substance here we might be obliged to examine
the texts rather than drag out the usual red herrings of conditioned
politically correct response which more and more are being exulted as the
sacred fish of our time. And we know from cameo-master Senator Lieberman
that we must pick one fish or the other being free "of fish" and not "from
fish".
   And speaking of fish, there was "old-fashioned" Sen. Byrd flopping
around on the Senate floor like a catfish thrown on the bank while all of
his spineless jellyfish co-orators were hiding in the murky mud of the
opinion polls more concerned not to offend AIPAC and all its Joshua wannabes
than practice what is preached to third graders.
    Voting in such a "democrazy" has come to have all the ear marks of the
Stockholm syndrome for those you have somehow convinced themselves of some
hope regardless of their grim circumstances unlikely to be altered by
anything other than death or taxes. At least 37% of our citizens feel less
hopeless by choosing  Tweedledee over Tweedledum.
     Will there next be a campaign to move Washington to Jerusalem? This
would give us better reaction time, and the "Second Coming" or the Olam Ha
Ba, the event our fearless leaders so righteously anticipate could be
watched right out the window of the Offal Office. Nonetheless we'll still
have to wait to see who screws who in the end, but my money is on the
Calvinists. As plutocratic oligarchies go theirs is the best the world has
ever seen, and they have the best weapons of messianic destruction ever
fashioned. Just say "red alert, boo" and Wal-Mart runs out of flag stickers
in 24 hours or label something as atheistic, anti-Semitic, crazy or egghead
conspiracy and its done for as the frowning eye descends, i.e. except for
Bill Maher who will sell a few thousand copies before Christmas in a country
where the debt driven economists (its politically incorrect to use the word
usurer in this age) have extended credit so far and wide that they don't
even care any longer if its recipient is really a person or a clone of that
person. Who would have it any other way? "Don't have your cake and don't eat
it too", or "He pays your money and he takes his choice."
    Someone (maybe an Egyptian) has claimed that 19 of the 24 protocols have
already become reality. Is there any way to approach this subject
objectively? Is there any such thing as objectivity anymore?

Happy Thanksgiving,
Chas

"I see its relation to one thing,
      Yu sees its relation to ten."  -Canto 103

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>From: Tim Romano <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Protocols
>Date: Fri, Nov 22, 2002, 9:23 AM
>

> One of the points that Pound makes is that the agenda set forth in the
> Protocols, regardless of the document's sources, was becoming a reality.
> Pound writes:
>
>                 "Now, say I am incoherent, say I have not given you a
> formal discourse. Let us be CLEAR. YOU COMPARE Laski's total program with
> the total program of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (without going
> into the sources of that document). COMPARE the two programs, and then come
> back and tell papa."
>
> Pound finds evidence of the program in the following trends and cataclysms:
>
>            --the banishment of the classics from the curriculum and the
> ascendancy of the Protestant Old Testament such that "doctrines of
> humiliation, doctrines of shame" replace "intense luminous
> thought"  [recall 'in coitu illuminatio' -- TR];
>
>            --the destruction of historical perspective and the
> propagandist's focus on 'the world of tomorrow';
>
>            --degradation and dehumanization of vocabulary and terminology,
> whereby vague generality (e.g. labor) is substituted for clear-edged words
> (e.g. men and women willing and able to work), ultimately enabling
> economists and politicians to assert the thing that is not; the example he
> gives is of Keynes' "saying that the then high cost of living was due to
> lack of labor, when there were millions of men out of work."
>
>            --the usurious cost of capital standing the way of natural
> abundance, workers and the middle class enslaved by interest payments.
>
>             --wholesale destruction of peoples by the sending of the
> able-bodied off to war where they die by the millions;
>
>
> The socialist agenda espoused by men such as Harold Laski at the London
> School of Economics is, in Pound's reckoning, the manifestation of a plan
> to destroy western civilization and to enslave its workers.  When we focus
> on the antisemitism in Pound's writings, we ought to bear in mind that the
> subject involves much more than "suburban prejudice" or mental illness.
> Although prejudice and paranoia both may be significant factors in his
> life, to attribute Pound's perception of the socialist agenda to mania
> alone does not illuminate the intellectual history of the period.
>
> Anybody know where I can get an inexpensive copy of EIMI by e.e. cummings ?
>
> Tim Romano
>
>
>
>
>
> At 08:26 AM 11/22/02 +0100, you wrote:
>>Pounders,
>>
>>a propos the "Protocols" here is just a post scriptum for all German
>>speaking Poundians: Hadassa Ben-Itto's >"Die Protokolle der Weisen
>>von Zion" - Anatomie einer Faelschung< (Aufbau Verlag) was published in
>>1998. The itle of the original mss is "The Lie That Wouldn't Die". I haven't
>>yet searched the web for an English language ed. of Ven-Itto's book. So I
>>don't know yet if the mss title is also the title of a book.
>>Cheers,
>>
>>alex
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