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Perhaps I am being naive myself, but I thought it more often the practice of
reappraising  uncertainty after a solid course in the divine.
    I'd like a second opinion on the site. BTW Ez's quotes are in there and
Hitler's too.

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>From: Jesse Huisken <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Take atheism for granted?
>Date: Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 2:10 PM
>

> I would absolutely love to drop this subject, but incase there was some
> misunderstanding I would not like to advance a pogrom against believers.
> My email  suggested that we question our own beliefs, and engage with
> some sort of intellectual restlessness. It was this sense of experiment
> that allowed Pound to broaden the rang of spiritual figures with which
> to populate the Cantos. One can return reapraise the divine after one
> has taken a solid course in uncertainty. The web site below seemed to me
> to be nothing if not naive.
>
>
> On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 06:07 PM, charles moyer wrote:
>
>> James, Dan and all,
>>     I think you may want to reassess your opinion of atheists if you
>> take
>> some time to examine this site:
>>
>> http://www.positiveatheism.org/index.shtml
>>
>> But see if you can find among these atheists any who would wish to
>> support
>> a pogrom against the "believers", an argument no doubt but more often
>> than
>> not a defensive one. But I think you may be surprised to see in whose
>> company you will find yourself.
>>     And Dan, I think Hitler was a Roman Catholic, granted not a very
>> good
>> one, but it was the Catholic party's vote which put him and the Nazis in
>> power in the Reichstag in 1933.
>>     How much rarer and precious does it make that 1%?
>>
>> Charles
>>
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>>> From: Stoner James <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Take atheism for granted.
>>> Date: Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 11:29 AM
>>>
>>
>>> Dan:
>>>
>>> You said:  Doesn't it frighten you that about 99% of this planet's
>>> denizens are (generally) mindless adherents of one formal religious
>>> sect
>>> or another?
>>>
>>> I'm not certain why such a thing should frighten me (us.)  As an
>>> atheist, you are also closed off to the possibility of a theistic
>>> alternative.  As an agnostic, it is both closed mindedness and
>>> intolerance that I most fear.  Atheist, Muslim, Jew, Christian -- its
>>> those among them that are closed minded and intolerant (more
>>> appropriately referred to as fundamentalist) that scare me.  They scare
>>> me because they want to make everyone else like them.  The long for the
>>> nostalgic notion of their own grand narrative being imposed and coerced
>>> upon others.  Thank God (oops) the atheists haven't organized, but
>>> there are the fundamentalists among them; they would annialate theists
>>> if they had the chance.
>>>
>>> Most of us ARE mindless adherents to something or another.  Because we
>>> use language, and it is taken so much for granted, it makes it
>>> necessarily so.
>>>
>>> $.02
>>>
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