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Have you found out yet? Wouldn't it be just another case of quoting an
author for study, review, or discussion?

Charles

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>From: Jonathan Gill <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: EPOUND-L Digest - 16 Dec 2001 to 17 Dec 2001 (#2001-113)
>Date: Wed, Dec 19, 2001, 10:47 AM
>

> Dear Poundians:
>
> Because I'm not sure about the copyright status of the poem, I'm not sure
about
> e-mailing the text to everyone on the list.  But I'll check with the Columbia
and
> get back to you all.
>
> Jonathan Gill
>
> Automatic digest processor wrote:
>
>> There are 5 messages totalling 165 lines in this issue.
>>
>> Topics of the day:
>>
>>   1. Pound and Shakespeare (3)
>>   2. Re Pound and Shakespeare
>>   3. Pound and Tom Metzger
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Date:    Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:05:09 -0500
>> From:    "Jonathan P. Gill" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Pound and Shakespeare
>>
>> Dear Poundians:
>>
>> Given the dead air here...How about hearing from list members about
>> projects they're working on?
>>
>> Many of you know my interests in Pound, radio, and the Jews, so I won't go
>> there.  But I also found in the Columbia Rare Book and Manuscript Library
>> an imitation of Shakespeare's "Sonnet 105" that Pound wrote around 1900.
>> It's fascinating on a number of accounts: Pound and Shakespeare is an
>> underestudied connection; and the poem shows Pound to have been an astute
>> reader and accomplished writer in the period between juvenalia and the
>> early Venice/London work.
>>
>> I've never seen any reference to this work.  Have any of you?
>>
>> Jonathan Gill
>> Columbia U.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date:    Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:19:41 EST
>> From:    [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Pound and Shakespeare
>>
>> In a message dated 12/17/2001 11:05:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>> [log in to unmask] writes:
>>
>> > But I also found in the Columbia Rare Book and Manuscript Library
>> > an imitation of Shakespeare's "Sonnet 105" that Pound wrote around 1900.
>> > It's fascinating on a number of accounts: Pound and Shakespeare is an
>> > underestudied connection; and the poem shows Pound to have been an astute
>> > reader and accomplished writer in the period between juvenalia and the
>> > early Venice/London work.
>>
>> it would be helpful if you could post the sonnet..
>>
>> thanks...
>> joe brennan....
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date:    Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:34:34 -0800
>> From:    charles moyer <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Pound and Shakespeare
>>
>> Why don't you cyber it out to all of us? I would like to see it; and others,
>> I am sure, would also.
>>
>> ----------
>> >From: "Jonathan P. Gill" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >To: [log in to unmask]
>> >Subject: Pound and Shakespeare
>> >Date: Mon, Dec 17, 2001, 8:05 AM
>> >
>>
>> > Dear Poundians:
>> >
>> > Given the dead air here...How about hearing from list members about
>> > projects they're working on?
>> >
>> > Many of you know my interests in Pound, radio, and the Jews, so I won't go
>> > there.  But I also found in the Columbia Rare Book and Manuscript Library
>> > an imitation of Shakespeare's "Sonnet 105" that Pound wrote around 1900.
>> > It's fascinating on a number of accounts: Pound and Shakespeare is an
>> > underestudied connection; and the poem shows Pound to have been an astute
>> > reader and accomplished writer in the period between juvenalia and the
>> > early Venice/London work.
>> >
>> > I've never seen any reference to this work.  Have any of you?
>> >
>> > Jonathan Gill
>> > Columbia U.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date:    Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:40:24 -0800
>> From:    Jacob Korg <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re Pound and Shakespeare
>>
>> In response to Professor Gill's suggestion for news about current
>> projects, I expect my book, Winter Love: Ezra Pound and H.D., a study of
>> the relations between the two, to be published next year.
>>  And to fill in the dead air of the list, and return to an old
>> controversy, the "Pull down thy vanity" passage.
>>         To the extent that I have been following the discussion, opinion
>> has passed from the view that it is an expression of remorse to the idea
>> that EP is cursing out the US army. Some reflection suggests that he is
>> writing about the US as a whole --"rathe to destroy," etc But then there
>> is the view that these lines are spoken by the goddess of the "eyes" in
>> the preceding passage as a reproach to Pound, which reverses again. On the
>> other hand, would "eyes" speak -- symbolically or otherwise?
>>         Any ideas about this?
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date:    Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:43:48 -0500
>> From:    "R.Gancie/C.Parcelli" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Pound and Tom Metzger
>>
>> For the past year, I have been canvassing Neo-Nazis, Neo-Fascists, White
>> Supremacists, the Christian Identity movement and other groups asking them
how
>> much influence if any Pound's poetry, especialy the Cantos, has had on their
>> ideologies. The animated discussions with En Lin Wei as well as the spate of
>> publications that attempt to present the Cantos, as one list member put it,
as
>> "the anthem of Fascism", prompted me to pursue this project. I therefore
began
>> querying the voices most likely to take up and sing this "anthem." I drafted
>> an article last week and will publish my findings in the next issue of
>> FlashPoint Magazine which should be available on line soon.
>>
>> I, also, completed a 'final' version of my poem Tale of the Tribe. My own
work
>> always draws from the Cantos and other high modernist sources. Tale of the
>> Tribe also owes a great debt to the work of Louis Zukofsky. Also, completed
is
>> another long poem (70 pages) which draws heavily on the styles of Ed Dorn and
>> Mel Tolson as well as Pound, called the Millenary's Centos. I will 'publish'
>> the 100 page unabridged version of Tale of the Tribe in the next issue of
>> FlashPoint.
>>
>> I have continued researching the eschatological dimensions of contemporary
>> scientific epistemology toward a new work tentatively called The Eschatology
>> of Reason. It will be an expansion upon themes touched upon in earlier work
>> but will focus on the contexts of an end time which are richly manifest in
the
>> contemporary scientific literature. Carlo Parcelli
>>
>> "Jonathan P. Gill" wrote:
>>
>> > Dear Poundians:
>> >
>> > Given the dead air here...How about hearing from list members about
>> > projects they're working on?
>> >
>> > Many of you know my interests in Pound, radio, and the Jews, so I won't go
>> > there.  But I also found in the Columbia Rare Book and Manuscript Library
>> > an imitation of Shakespeare's "Sonnet 105" that Pound wrote around 1900.
>> > It's fascinating on a number of accounts: Pound and Shakespeare is an
>> > underestudied connection; and the poem shows Pound to have been an astute
>> > reader and accomplished writer in the period between juvenalia and the
>> > early Venice/London work.
>> >
>> > I've never seen any reference to this work.  Have any of you?
>> >
>> > Jonathan Gill
>> > Columbia U.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> End of EPOUND-L Digest - 16 Dec 2001 to 17 Dec 2001 (#2001-113)
>> ***************************************************************

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