Dear Poundians:

Because I'm not sure about the copyright status of the poem, I'm not sure about
e-mailing the text to everyone on the list.  But I'll check with the Columbia and
get back to you all.

Jonathan Gill

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> There are 5 messages totalling 165 lines in this issue.
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> Topics of the day:
>
>   1. Pound and Shakespeare (3)
>   2. Re Pound and Shakespeare
>   3. Pound and Tom Metzger
>
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>
> Date:    Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:05:09 -0500
> From:    "Jonathan P. Gill" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Pound and Shakespeare
>
> Dear Poundians:
>
> Given the dead air here...How about hearing from list members about
> projects they're working on?
>
> Many of you know my interests in Pound, radio, and the Jews, so I won't go
> there.  But I also found in the Columbia Rare Book and Manuscript Library
> an imitation of Shakespeare's "Sonnet 105" that Pound wrote around 1900.
> It's fascinating on a number of accounts: Pound and Shakespeare is an
> underestudied connection; and the poem shows Pound to have been an astute
> reader and accomplished writer in the period between juvenalia and the
> early Venice/London work.
>
> I've never seen any reference to this work.  Have any of you?
>
> Jonathan Gill
> Columbia U.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:19:41 EST
> From:    [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Pound and Shakespeare
>
> In a message dated 12/17/2001 11:05:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> > But I also found in the Columbia Rare Book and Manuscript Library
> > an imitation of Shakespeare's "Sonnet 105" that Pound wrote around 1900.
> > It's fascinating on a number of accounts: Pound and Shakespeare is an
> > underestudied connection; and the poem shows Pound to have been an astute
> > reader and accomplished writer in the period between juvenalia and the
> > early Venice/London work.
>
> it would be helpful if you could post the sonnet..
>
> thanks...
> joe brennan....
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:34:34 -0800
> From:    charles moyer <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Pound and Shakespeare
>
> Why don't you cyber it out to all of us? I would like to see it; and others,
> I am sure, would also.
>
> ----------
> >From: "Jonathan P. Gill" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Pound and Shakespeare
> >Date: Mon, Dec 17, 2001, 8:05 AM
> >
>
> > Dear Poundians:
> >
> > Given the dead air here...How about hearing from list members about
> > projects they're working on?
> >
> > Many of you know my interests in Pound, radio, and the Jews, so I won't go
> > there.  But I also found in the Columbia Rare Book and Manuscript Library
> > an imitation of Shakespeare's "Sonnet 105" that Pound wrote around 1900.
> > It's fascinating on a number of accounts: Pound and Shakespeare is an
> > underestudied connection; and the poem shows Pound to have been an astute
> > reader and accomplished writer in the period between juvenalia and the
> > early Venice/London work.
> >
> > I've never seen any reference to this work.  Have any of you?
> >
> > Jonathan Gill
> > Columbia U.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:40:24 -0800
> From:    Jacob Korg <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re Pound and Shakespeare
>
> In response to Professor Gill's suggestion for news about current
> projects, I expect my book, Winter Love: Ezra Pound and H.D., a study of
> the relations between the two, to be published next year.
>  And to fill in the dead air of the list, and return to an old
> controversy, the "Pull down thy vanity" passage.
>         To the extent that I have been following the discussion, opinion
> has passed from the view that it is an expression of remorse to the idea
> that EP is cursing out the US army. Some reflection suggests that he is
> writing about the US as a whole --"rathe to destroy," etc But then there
> is the view that these lines are spoken by the goddess of the "eyes" in
> the preceding passage as a reproach to Pound, which reverses again. On the
> other hand, would "eyes" speak -- symbolically or otherwise?
>         Any ideas about this?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:43:48 -0500
> From:    "R.Gancie/C.Parcelli" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Pound and Tom Metzger
>
> For the past year, I have been canvassing Neo-Nazis, Neo-Fascists, White
> Supremacists, the Christian Identity movement and other groups asking them how
> much influence if any Pound's poetry, especialy the Cantos, has had on their
> ideologies. The animated discussions with En Lin Wei as well as the spate of
> publications that attempt to present the Cantos, as one list member put it, as
> "the anthem of Fascism", prompted me to pursue this project. I therefore began
> querying the voices most likely to take up and sing this "anthem." I drafted
> an article last week and will publish my findings in the next issue of
> FlashPoint Magazine which should be available on line soon.
>
> I, also, completed a 'final' version of my poem Tale of the Tribe. My own work
> always draws from the Cantos and other high modernist sources. Tale of the
> Tribe also owes a great debt to the work of Louis Zukofsky. Also, completed is
> another long poem (70 pages) which draws heavily on the styles of Ed Dorn and
> Mel Tolson as well as Pound, called the Millenary's Centos. I will 'publish'
> the 100 page unabridged version of Tale of the Tribe in the next issue of
> FlashPoint.
>
> I have continued researching the eschatological dimensions of contemporary
> scientific epistemology toward a new work tentatively called The Eschatology
> of Reason. It will be an expansion upon themes touched upon in earlier work
> but will focus on the contexts of an end time which are richly manifest in the
> contemporary scientific literature. Carlo Parcelli
>
> "Jonathan P. Gill" wrote:
>
> > Dear Poundians:
> >
> > Given the dead air here...How about hearing from list members about
> > projects they're working on?
> >
> > Many of you know my interests in Pound, radio, and the Jews, so I won't go
> > there.  But I also found in the Columbia Rare Book and Manuscript Library
> > an imitation of Shakespeare's "Sonnet 105" that Pound wrote around 1900.
> > It's fascinating on a number of accounts: Pound and Shakespeare is an
> > underestudied connection; and the poem shows Pound to have been an astute
> > reader and accomplished writer in the period between juvenalia and the
> > early Venice/London work.
> >
> > I've never seen any reference to this work.  Have any of you?
> >
> > Jonathan Gill
> > Columbia U.
>
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>
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