Dear Poundians: Because I'm not sure about the copyright status of the poem, I'm not sure about e-mailing the text to everyone on the list. But I'll check with the Columbia and get back to you all. Jonathan Gill Automatic digest processor wrote: > There are 5 messages totalling 165 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. Pound and Shakespeare (3) > 2. Re Pound and Shakespeare > 3. Pound and Tom Metzger > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:05:09 -0500 > From: "Jonathan P. Gill" <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Pound and Shakespeare > > Dear Poundians: > > Given the dead air here...How about hearing from list members about > projects they're working on? > > Many of you know my interests in Pound, radio, and the Jews, so I won't go > there. But I also found in the Columbia Rare Book and Manuscript Library > an imitation of Shakespeare's "Sonnet 105" that Pound wrote around 1900. > It's fascinating on a number of accounts: Pound and Shakespeare is an > underestudied connection; and the poem shows Pound to have been an astute > reader and accomplished writer in the period between juvenalia and the > early Venice/London work. > > I've never seen any reference to this work. Have any of you? > > Jonathan Gill > Columbia U. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:19:41 EST > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Pound and Shakespeare > > In a message dated 12/17/2001 11:05:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > But I also found in the Columbia Rare Book and Manuscript Library > > an imitation of Shakespeare's "Sonnet 105" that Pound wrote around 1900. > > It's fascinating on a number of accounts: Pound and Shakespeare is an > > underestudied connection; and the poem shows Pound to have been an astute > > reader and accomplished writer in the period between juvenalia and the > > early Venice/London work. > > it would be helpful if you could post the sonnet.. > > thanks... > joe brennan.... > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:34:34 -0800 > From: charles moyer <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Pound and Shakespeare > > Why don't you cyber it out to all of us? I would like to see it; and others, > I am sure, would also. > > ---------- > >From: "Jonathan P. Gill" <[log in to unmask]> > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Pound and Shakespeare > >Date: Mon, Dec 17, 2001, 8:05 AM > > > > > Dear Poundians: > > > > Given the dead air here...How about hearing from list members about > > projects they're working on? > > > > Many of you know my interests in Pound, radio, and the Jews, so I won't go > > there. But I also found in the Columbia Rare Book and Manuscript Library > > an imitation of Shakespeare's "Sonnet 105" that Pound wrote around 1900. > > It's fascinating on a number of accounts: Pound and Shakespeare is an > > underestudied connection; and the poem shows Pound to have been an astute > > reader and accomplished writer in the period between juvenalia and the > > early Venice/London work. > > > > I've never seen any reference to this work. Have any of you? > > > > Jonathan Gill > > Columbia U. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:40:24 -0800 > From: Jacob Korg <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re Pound and Shakespeare > > In response to Professor Gill's suggestion for news about current > projects, I expect my book, Winter Love: Ezra Pound and H.D., a study of > the relations between the two, to be published next year. > And to fill in the dead air of the list, and return to an old > controversy, the "Pull down thy vanity" passage. > To the extent that I have been following the discussion, opinion > has passed from the view that it is an expression of remorse to the idea > that EP is cursing out the US army. Some reflection suggests that he is > writing about the US as a whole --"rathe to destroy," etc But then there > is the view that these lines are spoken by the goddess of the "eyes" in > the preceding passage as a reproach to Pound, which reverses again. On the > other hand, would "eyes" speak -- symbolically or otherwise? > Any ideas about this? > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:43:48 -0500 > From: "R.Gancie/C.Parcelli" <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Pound and Tom Metzger > > For the past year, I have been canvassing Neo-Nazis, Neo-Fascists, White > Supremacists, the Christian Identity movement and other groups asking them how > much influence if any Pound's poetry, especialy the Cantos, has had on their > ideologies. The animated discussions with En Lin Wei as well as the spate of > publications that attempt to present the Cantos, as one list member put it, as > "the anthem of Fascism", prompted me to pursue this project. I therefore began > querying the voices most likely to take up and sing this "anthem." I drafted > an article last week and will publish my findings in the next issue of > FlashPoint Magazine which should be available on line soon. > > I, also, completed a 'final' version of my poem Tale of the Tribe. My own work > always draws from the Cantos and other high modernist sources. Tale of the > Tribe also owes a great debt to the work of Louis Zukofsky. Also, completed is > another long poem (70 pages) which draws heavily on the styles of Ed Dorn and > Mel Tolson as well as Pound, called the Millenary's Centos. I will 'publish' > the 100 page unabridged version of Tale of the Tribe in the next issue of > FlashPoint. > > I have continued researching the eschatological dimensions of contemporary > scientific epistemology toward a new work tentatively called The Eschatology > of Reason. It will be an expansion upon themes touched upon in earlier work > but will focus on the contexts of an end time which are richly manifest in the > contemporary scientific literature. Carlo Parcelli > > "Jonathan P. Gill" wrote: > > > Dear Poundians: > > > > Given the dead air here...How about hearing from list members about > > projects they're working on? > > > > Many of you know my interests in Pound, radio, and the Jews, so I won't go > > there. But I also found in the Columbia Rare Book and Manuscript Library > > an imitation of Shakespeare's "Sonnet 105" that Pound wrote around 1900. > > It's fascinating on a number of accounts: Pound and Shakespeare is an > > underestudied connection; and the poem shows Pound to have been an astute > > reader and accomplished writer in the period between juvenalia and the > > early Venice/London work. > > > > I've never seen any reference to this work. Have any of you? > > > > Jonathan Gill > > Columbia U. > > ------------------------------ > > End of EPOUND-L Digest - 16 Dec 2001 to 17 Dec 2001 (#2001-113) > ***************************************************************