The irony would be in a register close to that in HSM.
Tim Romano
> Dan,
> I've been think about what seems to me to be a contradiction or an
> incongruity-- how could Pound be deliberately ambiguous here -- meaning
two
> things at once-- if one of those things involves _sincere_
self-assessment?
> Doesn't the duplicity and irony undermine the integrity of the contrition?
> But what if we were to take this Zweifaltigkeit (half black, half white)
as
> a kind of structural _counterpoint_ (Lawes, Jenkins)? Sincere
> self-appraisal counterposed with the ironic statement, addressed to
> "Paquin", that the (army's) green casque has outdone his elegance.
>
> Tim Romano
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Pearlman" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:32 PM
> Subject: Re: green casques
>
>
> > Tim,
> >
> > As you'll see by my last message, I'm getting sold for various
> > reasons on this duality possibility myself--as an *intentional*
> > use of ambiguity on EP's part.
> >
> > ==Dan
> >
> > At 02:53 PM 8/23/00 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Burt,
> > >It's clear that the green casque is readily associated with other
> elements
> > >from the green (i.e. natural) world in the Pisan Cantos, such as an
> insect's
> > >beautiful case, not made by man. I was fairly well convinced that
Dan's
> > >myrmidon theory was overshooting the target, but now, I'm not so sure.
> > >There seem to be _two_ green worlds, and two planes of meaning here ---
> > >again, the Elizabethan masque's meta-commentary upon the dramatic
> action,
> > >and the magpie's duality, may shed some light on how the ambiguities of
> this
> > >passage operate.
> > > Tim Romano
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Burt Hatlen" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 11:56 AM
> > >Subject: green casques
> > >
> > >
> > >> I haven't been following the "green casques" thread very closely, and
> > >> I've erased a good many messages, so someone may have made this point
> > >> already. But the association of the green casques with army helmets
> > >> seems to me totally wrong. I have always associated the "Paquin"
> > >> passage with the final lines of Canto LXXX, five pages previous:
> > >>
> > >> as the young lizard extends his leopard spots
> > >> along the grass-blade seeking the green midge half an ant-size
> > >> [then five lines about London]
> > >> and if her green elegance
> > >> remains on this side of my rain ditch
> > >> puss lizard will lunch on some other T-bone
> > >>
> > >> sunset grand couturier.
> > >>
> > >> We have here an association of "green" with "elegance," and Paquin
was
> > >> in fact a couturier. A midge is a small fly, and its closed wings
might
> > >> look like a "casque." But I also think that Carroll Terrell is
correct
> > >> in association the green casque with the cocoon from which the wasp
> > >> emerges, in Canto LXXXIII.
> > >>
> > >> Burt Hatlen
> > >>
> > >>
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