Re Jonathon Gill's post below:

Does "YIDDERY" translate into individual Jews - or is it Pound's symbol for
the financial/ideological system which he opposes?

If "YIDDERY" translates into individual Jews, then "wipe out" would
certainly indicate action against Jews as individuals although the precise
nature of such a 'wiping out' might yet have to be determined. Pound,
*might*, in fact, be espousing an exterminationist anti-Semitism.

However, if "YIDDERY" is a symbol for what Pound thinks is a noxious
financial system or culture, then we have no more than a strong antipathy
towards that system an a particular culure, but no criminal or
exterminationist intent against individual Jews.

Although I am only an amateur Poundian, I have never seen any evidence that
necessitates the first conclusion, i.e. that Pound harbored criminal or
exterminationist intent against individuals. His later friendship with
Ginsburg gives reason to doubt that.

Is there any unequivocal evidence that forces us to translate "YIDDERY" into
'individual Jews' and thus accept the grim reality of Pound's criminal
and/or exterminationist views?

Best wishes,

Ian Kluge





----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan P. Gill" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 9:44 AM
Subject: pound in purgatory


> Dear Poundians:
>
> I feel as if I should apologize for having started this thread--perhaps I
> can make amends for it by bringing us back to Pound's own words and
> encouraging some close reading:
>
> "That is what the the jew is THERE to produce, war and more between goyim/
> UNTIL UNTIL oh UNTIL all the goyim simultaneously wake up to the cause of
> the trouble and determine to wipe out the root cause of the war, namely
> YIDDERY [...] WELLLL In the mean time, die brothers, die, make a Chewisch
> Yom Kippur, or other sort of sheenygogue festival."
>
> This passage is not from Doob's version of the broadcasts, which end in
> 1943, but from an undated typescript for a broadcast, probably late in the
> war.  These texts, which may or may not have been broadcast, are much more
> vituperative and clear in their calls for anti-Jewish action.
>
> Jonathan Gill
> Columbia University
>