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Robert Kibler <[log in to unmask]>
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Leon Surrette mentioned to me at the ALA conference in Boston that Mcluhan's "Gutenberg Universe" had pertinence to a way of understanding/reading Pound. 

"Death was the first mystery, and it placed man on the track of
other mysteries. It raised [induced?] his thoughts from the
visible to the invisible, from the transitory to the eternal, from the human
to the divine."
                          from "The Ancient City," by Fustel de Coulanges. Page 17

Robert E. Kibler, PhD
Associate Professor of English and Humanities
Minot State University, Minot North Dakota
701 858 3876
From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Bob Dobbs [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 5:58 PM
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Subject: Re: Two of my favorite Pound Quotes:

Composer and Pound scholar, R. Murray Schafer, who attended McLuhan's class in the early 50s, was fond of telling how McLuhan would teach that "Finnegans Wake was a radio program, not a book".

I failed to ask Schafer what McLuhan said to his students about "The Cantos."

McLuhan wrote in 1957 that Wyndham Lewis was the first to use the media "en bloc" in his writings.

McLuhan student, Joe Keogh, wrote an article in the early 80s pointing out the mating of the page and the telephone in "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock".

McLuhan's first PhD. student, Donald Theall ( former President of Trent University), pointed out in his PhD (1954) that Joyce did not have his writing imitate modern communications but took aspects of them to enhance his written art.

It would seem that McLuhan felt that the electric and electronic forms were the key to understanding the Radical Modernist innovations created by the "Men of 1914".

Does anybody know if teachers of later generations made these points in their pedagogy?

I see Peter Montgomery, student of McLuhan in the early 60s, is on this list.

Did McLuhan mention these ideas in the classes you attended, Peter?

Bob Dobbs

On Sep 29, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Michael Edmunds wrote:

> These quotes certainly add some insight into McLuhan's work and its relationship to Pound. McLuhan's visit ( and correspondence ), with Kenner, to visit Pound and McLuhan's last public talk before his death on Pound can be better understood now with these references. Thanks Bob.