Leon Surrette mentioned to me at the ALA conference in Boston that Mcluhan's "Gutenberg Universe" had pertinence to a way of understanding/reading Pound. "Death was the first mystery, and it placed man on the track of other mysteries. It raised [induced?] his thoughts from the visible to the invisible, from the transitory to the eternal, from the human to the divine." from "The Ancient City," by Fustel de Coulanges. Page 17 Robert E. Kibler, PhD Associate Professor of English and Humanities Minot State University, Minot North Dakota 701 858 3876 ________________________________________ From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Bob Dobbs [[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 5:58 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Two of my favorite Pound Quotes: Composer and Pound scholar, R. Murray Schafer, who attended McLuhan's class in the early 50s, was fond of telling how McLuhan would teach that "Finnegans Wake was a radio program, not a book". I failed to ask Schafer what McLuhan said to his students about "The Cantos." McLuhan wrote in 1957 that Wyndham Lewis was the first to use the media "en bloc" in his writings. McLuhan student, Joe Keogh, wrote an article in the early 80s pointing out the mating of the page and the telephone in "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock". McLuhan's first PhD. student, Donald Theall ( former President of Trent University), pointed out in his PhD (1954) that Joyce did not have his writing imitate modern communications but took aspects of them to enhance his written art. It would seem that McLuhan felt that the electric and electronic forms were the key to understanding the Radical Modernist innovations created by the "Men of 1914". Does anybody know if teachers of later generations made these points in their pedagogy? I see Peter Montgomery, student of McLuhan in the early 60s, is on this list. Did McLuhan mention these ideas in the classes you attended, Peter? Bob Dobbs On Sep 29, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Michael Edmunds wrote: > These quotes certainly add some insight into McLuhan's work and its relationship to Pound. McLuhan's visit ( and correspondence ), with Kenner, to visit Pound and McLuhan's last public talk before his death on Pound can be better understood now with these references. Thanks Bob.