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Cf. Blake's "questioner who sits so sly...." (quoted from memory) -- maybe
RF knew that line.


Jim Loucks
Coordinator, English Department
Ohio State University at Newark
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Newark, OH  43055-1797
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From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of charles moyer
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:39 AM
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Subject: Re: Imagism and Joyce

    In this vein you may want to look at Pound's "Confucius", particularly
the "Chung Yung : The Unwobbling Pivot".


>From: Kate Cone <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Imagism and Joyce
>Date: Wed, Mar 13, 2002, 4:48 AM

> Tim:
> I've been reading C's poetry and bio's for over 30 years. In fact, as a
> result of my research and inquiries to Jay Parini at Middlebury, a Frost
> scholar and biographer, I've been asked to write the Cummings article for
> the Oxford Encyclopedia of American Literature, which Parini is editing.
> (wheeee!!!)
> Frost I knew as all American students do -- the anthologized poems. I
> the imagery, but didn't "get" how deep they were then. But one little poem
> hit me a different way:
> The Secret Sits
> We dance 'round a ring and suppose.
> The secret sits in the middle and knows.
> Frost
> ****
> seeker of truth
> follow no path
> all paths lead where
> truth is here
> Cummings
> ****
> At first I thought of this type of poem as having a Zen influence, but on
> further investigation I learned that both C and F were tremendously
> influenced by Emerson, whose essay "Circles" pretty much pegs the notion
> coming back: "I keep and pass and turn again." (Brahma).
> Anyway, the nature poetry of C and F are the most alike in that regard.
> Where Pound comes in: he was among some other influential poets met in
> England and was instrumental in getting Frost's first two books
> well-reviewed in England, essentially "making" Frost the first and perhaps
> only best-selling American poet of the 20th century. As a young poet at
> Harvard, Cummings' notebooks show a keen interest in being part of the
> imagist movement.
> I guess what I'm asking for are any thoughts at all about Pound's
> and/or dealings with either Frost or Cummings. And with regard to Mr.
> Savage's comment about Frost's poor treatment of Pound -- if you could
> elaborate further on that/those incident/s, it would give me more insight
> was Frost abandoning a poet who helped  him in order to "lay low" from
> controversy? This will further my theory that Frost "invented" himself as
> Yankee farmer poet and didn't want to rock any boat by being involved
> (publicly) in the politics of the day. Cummings was much more "in your
> face."
> Thanks!
> Kate
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Romano" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:15 AM
> Subject: Re: Imagism and Joyce
>> Kate,
>> What do you think their work has in common? I see no similarity, though I
>> must admit that I don't know cummings's work inside and out.
>> Tim Romano
>> Kate Cone wrote:
>> >I am writing my masters thesis on how E.E. Cummings and Robert Frost's
>> >poetry are related.