Cf. Blake's "questioner who sits so sly...." (quoted from memory) -- maybe RF knew that line. Jim Jim Loucks Coordinator, English Department Ohio State University at Newark 1179 University Drive Newark, OH 43055-1797 740-366-9423 fax 740-366-5047 -----Original Message----- From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of charles moyer Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:39 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Imagism and Joyce Kate, In this vein you may want to look at Pound's "Confucius", particularly the "Chung Yung : The Unwobbling Pivot". Charles ---------- >From: Kate Cone <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Imagism and Joyce >Date: Wed, Mar 13, 2002, 4:48 AM > > Tim: > > I've been reading C's poetry and bio's for over 30 years. In fact, as a > result of my research and inquiries to Jay Parini at Middlebury, a Frost > scholar and biographer, I've been asked to write the Cummings article for > the Oxford Encyclopedia of American Literature, which Parini is editing. > (wheeee!!!) > > Frost I knew as all American students do -- the anthologized poems. I loved > the imagery, but didn't "get" how deep they were then. But one little poem > hit me a different way: > > The Secret Sits > > We dance 'round a ring and suppose. > The secret sits in the middle and knows. > > Frost > > **** > > seeker of truth > > follow no path > all paths lead where > > truth is here > > Cummings > > **** > > At first I thought of this type of poem as having a Zen influence, but on > further investigation I learned that both C and F were tremendously > influenced by Emerson, whose essay "Circles" pretty much pegs the notion of > coming back: "I keep and pass and turn again." (Brahma). > > Anyway, the nature poetry of C and F are the most alike in that regard. > Where Pound comes in: he was among some other influential poets met in > England and was instrumental in getting Frost's first two books > well-reviewed in England, essentially "making" Frost the first and perhaps > only best-selling American poet of the 20th century. As a young poet at > Harvard, Cummings' notebooks show a keen interest in being part of the > imagist movement. > > I guess what I'm asking for are any thoughts at all about Pound's influence > and/or dealings with either Frost or Cummings. And with regard to Mr. > Savage's comment about Frost's poor treatment of Pound -- if you could > elaborate further on that/those incident/s, it would give me more insight -- > was Frost abandoning a poet who helped him in order to "lay low" from > controversy? This will further my theory that Frost "invented" himself as a > Yankee farmer poet and didn't want to rock any boat by being involved > (publicly) in the politics of the day. Cummings was much more "in your > face." > > Thanks! > > Kate > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Romano" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:15 AM > Subject: Re: Imagism and Joyce > > >> Kate, >> What do you think their work has in common? I see no similarity, though I >> must admit that I don't know cummings's work inside and out. >> Tim Romano >> >> Kate Cone wrote: >> >> >I am writing my masters thesis on how E.E. Cummings and Robert Frost's >> >poetry are related. >>