We all know you're refering to Ginsberg so why not just
name him... If my memory serves, I think there was a
reference to this encounter (along much the same lines
as you outlined) in a book about Pound eentitled The
Voice of Silence (can't recall the author)  I am - unfortunately -
still travelling without portfolio in the wilds of The Jewish
Alps (as my Jewish friend, Jack Savage, calls the
Catskills)
 
Best
 
Stoneking
 
 
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From: Booth, Christopher <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: Getting things all mixed up
 
 
> Uh, I am hesitant to follow this up, but I think that it should perhaps be
> pointed out. I have this from an anecdotal (unpublished) source that I
would
> trust a thousand times more on any point in which it differed from the
> source who claimed that EP said it.
>
> Pound never actually said that bit about the "stupid suburban prejudice".
>
> As far as I am concerned the source of that famous quote is...not
> trustworthy. I am trying to be delicate.
>
> In a nutshell: I was told that EP didn't say those words, and I believe
it.
>
> Others were present that day of the documented visit, and let us not
forget
> which of those that were present is the source of the story. [Doesn't
> "suburban" sound more like _his_ vocabulary in that context than a word EP
> would have chosen?]
>
> I think that this quote was adopted by the Poundians more because many of
> them[/us?] needed the excuse it provided than that it is believable beyond
> question.
>
> This point is tricky. I have it from an anecdotal source, at second hand
at
> that, but I am satisfied; I will never believe the story.
>
> I don't wish to offend anyone here who may have known the person who gave
us
> the quote; my opinion is much stronger and more outraged than I express
> here--unfortunately, I am nobody, and my source is, very very sadly,
> deceased.
>
> > ----------
> > From:         Jonathan Morse
> > Reply To:     Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
> > Sent:         Friday, November 26, 1999 9:54 PM
> > To:   [log in to unmask]
> > Subject:      Re: Getting things all mixed up
> >
>         ...
>
> > These days, actually, one hears echoes of Pat Buchanan. What was Pound's
> > nice word for the state of mind? Ah yes: "suburban."
> >
>         ...
>
> > Jonathan Morse
> >
>