Rick,
   I submit that neither Pound nor Weston were writing with any occult
purpose in mind. If occult implies something secret why would anyone write
in order to explain it? This accusation which is the theme of Surette's "The
Birth of Modernism: Ezra Pound, T.S. Eliot, W.B. Yeats and the Occult"
smacks of the type of pejorative one would expect of Christian witch hunters
although it is never explicitly stated. In whatever way the term "occult"
seems to be reduced to definition it always seems to come up meaning nothing
but "non-Christian".
    It is so easy to get an En Lin Wei or a Stoner James to buy into this so
their confusion becomes less painful that there must be some truth in what
Eliot said to Pound in 1945, "Ez, you are NOT good at explaining to the
simple-minded."

Charles
    "...they say 'judge not', but they send to Hell everything that stands
in their way." -Nietzsche

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>From: Richard Seddon <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Cantgo ergo possum physic
>Date: Mon, Jan 27, 2003, 8:47 PM
>

> Charles
>
> My reference to the Anglican clergyman was in reply to a question concerning
> Eliot and the English concept of  "Parish".  I had earlier suggested that
> the idea of "Parish" had much to do with Eliot's conversion.  I was asked to
> enlarge upon the concept of "Parish".  I admitted to ignorance but offered
> to provide reference to an expert.  The English "Parish" is a very
> appropriate subject for an Anglican Priest.  It had nothing to do with
> Weston or even directly with Eliot's Christianity.
>
> We must not be reading the same Weston.  I find that virtually her whole
> argument is concerned with finding and showing the Pagan origin of the Grail
> legend.  Weston would have been the first to acknowledge Christian
> borrowings from the Grail legend.  Her point was that the actual origins
> were not in Christian mystery but in Pagan mystery.  You chose to excerpt a
> few occult passages which only serves to demonstrate the large amount
> occultism which is present in her writings.  I do not think that your
> excerptions challenge my reading of Weston intentions in any way.
>
> I suggest "The Waste Land and Jessie Weston: A Reassessment" by Leon Surette
> (Twentieth Century Literature volume 34 number 2, page 223)
>
> Rick Seddon
> McIntosh, NM