Tim Romano,
i wrote to credit yer distinction between racism and racial chauvinism
...where it appeared the discussion,
after the current right-think,
was implying identity.
...and don't dissagree in re the necessity of grasping ep's
metaphors/myths, personal, social, historical...anagogical.
whence the importance of not disqualifying "race"
...no more, ideology, the perrennial allure of the caeser myth
(all that cornball "gloire de france" type stuff) of fascism
how a century previous ep's spiritual antecedants had fell for
bonaparte...nso on...you get my drift
...the prevailing cant of our neo-lib blue-noses
rendering us all a democracy of skinnerian ciphers
sans family, race, gender, religion, history...,
within a consumerist ideology
emfatically does not morally eclipse these forms
 
finally, btw, the connection twixt xxxii & xxxvi,
ie, in general,
that rev is an especially archetypal form of eros,
is patent, no? only that the yankee eros was
anally focused, eh?... acquisitiveness,
land jobbery, stock jobbery, usury...
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Romano <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: Friday, October 22, 1999 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: Racial or cultural?
 
 
>Bob Scheetz,
>My motives have been to shed some light in this forum on Pound's ideology
>because I think it is necessary to understand his IDEAS if we are to
>understand his poetry and his political views. Pound thought so too. The
>current context was "racism" and "anti-semiticism". I have been trying to
>encourage a balanced use of the source material, letters AND published
>writings, when Pound's views on these matters are the topic of discussion.
>Thus, my participation in this thread has NOT been
>
>> a exercise
>> in emasculation...a smugly superior fastidiousness
>
>
>Without an understanding of how he makes distinctions, how he draws
>comparisons, how are we to perceive the thematic connections Pound was
>making between, say, canto XXXII and canto XXXVI?
>
>Between
>
>             'The revolution', said Mr Adams,
>               'Took place in the minds of the people.'"
>                        ...
> and
>            A lady asks me
>                    I speak in season
>            She seeks reason for an affect, wild often
>            That is so proud he hath Love for a name.
>                ...
>
>The view of Poetry that you express in the following lines
>
>> ...and it's precisely this pathetic (ie love/hate) perception
>> of living identities (namings, substantives, stereotypes..)
>>  what enables our poetry.
>
>is unclear (I don't see how "namings" or "stereotypes" can be regarded as
>"living")  though I think I get the pulp of what you're saying. I believe
>your stated view runs counter to Pound's view of poetry.  If I understand
>you correctly, yer sayin' poetry is an emotional affair that is fueled by
>raw cognitive conflict: "pathetic (ie love/hate) perception".  Whereas for
>Pound, fine poetry makes fine distinctions.
>Tim Romano