what's the use in talking
there is no end of talking

Peter Montgomery <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Amazing what wonders a good ounce can do.
> Parsimoniousness counters usura.
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Kibler
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: 2006-Jan-12 6:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
>
>   Well well well--I guess you are going to have to come to the ALA if
> this panel runs, to satiate that curiosity! For my part, I prefer to
> thiink of your (and Pound's) beaneries as sometimes capable of producing
> thoughts of a more aromatic kind, and the overall enterprise as
> investigating aesthetic and philosophical freedom rather than
> petrification--but if I step back from the enterprise even a little, I
> see your point.
>  Yet were I to step back too far, I probably would have to shoot
> myself, so instead, will gulp some coffee, prep for class, and continue
> to measure my works and days by the spoonful. Cheers, Robert K
>
>
> The person of excellence understands what is moral.
> The petty person understands what is profitable.
>                   "Analects" IV.16, Confucius
>
> Robert E. Kibler, Ph.D.
> English and Humanities
> Director, Northern Plains Writing Project
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> Minot State University
> 500 University Avenue West
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Charles Moyer
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 8:03 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
>
> Bob,
>    Damn you, now you have made me curious. I'm getting too old for this
> nonsense. Fucking beaneries and there resulting intestinal gas! So it is
> "petrifying ideologies" ( and boy, we got em) that we are really talking
> about?
>
> Charlie
>
> "...and the demand that everyone swallow it." -KULCHUR p.53
>
>> From: Robert Kibler <[log in to unmask]>
>> Reply-To: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:31:10 -0600
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
>>
>> Well, Pound assuredly read in and of the medieval Islamic
>> thinkers--specifically Avicenna and Averroes. Cavalcanti was also an
> avowed
>> Averroist, and Pound's study of him assuredly brought Pound further
> within the
>> pale of medieval Islamic thought.  Ernst Renan and Etienne
> Gilson--both of
>> whom Pound read and with whom he corresponded wrote about Islamic
> thought, and
>> Renan wrote a lengthy thesis/dissertation and book on Averroism that
> is in the
>> Pound collection in Austin (I need to get down there to see Pound's
> habitual
>> underlinings in blue pencil. Stuff in the Beinecke too.).
>> More specifically, the Averroist translation of and interpretation of
>> Aristotle's "De Anima" corresponds in a general way to how Pound's
> combinant
>> metaphysics and aesthetics operate--as a process, a forma mentis, a
>> Ling--moving in and out of discernible form and reality, and likewise,
> in and
>> out of the mind of both God and artist, thereby changing the character
> of
>> created art, perceived reality, and the overall quality of mind
> possessed by
>> both.  As seen in the Cantos.
>> That would be the general drift of it, at 7:30 in the morning. And
> Pound's son
>> Omar wrote a book of translated Islamic poetry. Don't know if there is
> any
>> link, but maybe.
>>
>>
>> The person of excellence understands what is moral.
>> The petty person understands what is profitable.
>>                    "Analects" IV.16, Confucius
>>
>> Robert E. Kibler, Ph.D.
>> English and Humanities
>> Director, Northern Plains Writing Project
>> 229 Hartnett Hall West
>> Minot State University
>> 500 University Avenue West
>> Minot, North Dakota 58701
>> telephone: 701 858 3876
>> e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>> fax: 701 858 3894
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Charles Moyer
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:59 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
>>
>> Would you care to share any of your depth in this topic with those of
> us
>> still semiconscious on this list who will have no opportunity to
> attend the
>> conference and would not find it profitable to do so?
>>
>> Charles
>>
>> "Without stirring abroad
>> One can know the whole world;
>> Without looking out of the window
>> One can see the way of heaven."
>> TAO TE CHING (and this was said before Fox News)
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Robert Kibler <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Reply-To: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 06:52:55 -0600
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
>>>
>>> I am certainly out here, and would love to participate in a panel
> concerning
>>> Pound and Islam. I am deep in this topic now. If there are others so
>>> interested, I would hope we could make a panel of the topic. Thanks
> Burt.
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>> The person of excellence understands what is moral.
>>> The petty person understands what is profitable.
>>>                    "Analects" IV.16, Confucius
>>>
>>> Robert E. Kibler, Ph.D.
>>> English and Humanities
>>> Director, Northern Plains Writing Project
>>> 229 Hartnett Hall West
>>> Minot State University
>>> 500 University Avenue West
>>> Minot, North Dakota 58701
>>> telephone: 701 858 3876
>>> e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>>> fax: 701 858 3894
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Burt Hatlen
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:12 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
>>>
>>> I was unable to attend the MLA this year, but I understand from Alec
> Marsh
>>> that that there was some discussion of possible Pound Society panels
> at the
>>> ALA conference in San Francisco, May25-28. For the past two years,
> Tim Redman
>>> has taken
>>> responsibility for panels at the ALA, but Alec reports that this year
> Tim
>>> will
>>> be in Europe at the tim e of the conference. It is my understanding
> the
>>> Robert
>>> Kibler raised the possibility of a panel on Pound and Islam. Robert,
> are you
>>> out there?  Is
>>> this information correct?  If so, is anyone else on this list
> interested in
>>> such a panel? I would be interested in putting together a panel on
> Pound and
>>> the poets of the San Francisco Renaissance.  If you think that you
> might like
>>> to join such a
>>> panel, please send me a message to that effect ASAP. The deadline for
> program
>>> listings is January 30.
>>>
>>> Burt Hatlen
>



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John Oliver
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