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-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Romano
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Sent: 2006-Jan-12 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?

An old English proverb:  To euerie man his owne fart smells sweete.
Tim Romano

Robert Kibler wrote:

>   Well well well--I guess you are going to have to come to the ALA if
this panel runs, to satiate that curiosity! For my part, I prefer to
think of your (and Pound's) beaneries as sometimes capable of producing
thoughts of a more aromatic kind, and the overall enterprise as
investigating aesthetic and philosophical freedom rather than
petrification--but if I step back from the enterprise even a little, I
see your point. 
>  Yet were I to step back too far, I probably would have to shoot
myself, so instead, will gulp some coffee, prep for class, and continue
to measure my works and days by the spoonful. Cheers, Robert K
>
> 
>The person of excellence understands what is moral. 
>The petty person understands what is profitable.
>                   "Analects" IV.16, Confucius
> 
>Robert E. Kibler, Ph.D.
>English and Humanities
>Director, Northern Plains Writing Project
>229 Hartnett Hall West
>Minot State University
>500 University Avenue West
>Minot, North Dakota 58701
>telephone: 701 858 3876
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>fax: 701 858 3894
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Charles Moyer
>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 8:03 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
>
>Bob,
>    Damn you, now you have made me curious. I'm getting too old for
this
>nonsense. Fucking beaneries and there resulting intestinal gas! So it
is
>"petrifying ideologies" ( and boy, we got em) that we are really
talking
>about?
>
>Charlie
>
>"...and the demand that everyone swallow it." -KULCHUR p.53
>
>  
>
>>From: Robert Kibler <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:31:10 -0600
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
>>
>>Well, Pound assuredly read in and of the medieval Islamic
>>thinkers--specifically Avicenna and Averroes. Cavalcanti was also an
avowed
>>Averroist, and Pound's study of him assuredly brought Pound further
within the
>>pale of medieval Islamic thought.  Ernst Renan and Etienne
Gilson--both of
>>whom Pound read and with whom he corresponded wrote about Islamic
thought, and
>>Renan wrote a lengthy thesis/dissertation and book on Averroism that
is in the
>>Pound collection in Austin (I need to get down there to see Pound's
habitual
>>underlinings in blue pencil. Stuff in the Beinecke too.).
>>More specifically, the Averroist translation of and interpretation of
>>Aristotle's "De Anima" corresponds in a general way to how Pound's
combinant
>>metaphysics and aesthetics operate--as a process, a forma mentis, a
>>Ling--moving in and out of discernible form and reality, and likewise,
in and
>>out of the mind of both God and artist, thereby changing the character
of
>>created art, perceived reality, and the overall quality of mind
possessed by
>>both.  As seen in the Cantos.
>>That would be the general drift of it, at 7:30 in the morning. And
Pound's son
>>Omar wrote a book of translated Islamic poetry. Don't know if there is
any
>>link, but maybe. 
>>
>> 
>>The person of excellence understands what is moral.
>>The petty person understands what is profitable.
>>                   "Analects" IV.16, Confucius
>> 
>>Robert E. Kibler, Ph.D.
>>English and Humanities
>>Director, Northern Plains Writing Project
>>229 Hartnett Hall West
>>Minot State University
>>500 University Avenue West
>>Minot, North Dakota 58701
>>telephone: 701 858 3876
>>e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>>fax: 701 858 3894
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
>>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Charles Moyer
>>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:59 AM
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
>>
>>Would you care to share any of your depth in this topic with those of
us
>>still semiconscious on this list who will have no opportunity to
attend the
>>conference and would not find it profitable to do so?
>>
>>Charles
>>
>>"Without stirring abroad
>>One can know the whole world;
>>Without looking out of the window
>>One can see the way of heaven."
>>TAO TE CHING (and this was said before Fox News)
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>From: Robert Kibler <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Reply-To: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 06:52:55 -0600
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
>>>
>>>I am certainly out here, and would love to participate in a panel
concerning
>>>Pound and Islam. I am deep in this topic now. If there are others so
>>>interested, I would hope we could make a panel of the topic. Thanks
Burt.
>>>Robert
>>>
>>> 
>>>The person of excellence understands what is moral.
>>>The petty person understands what is profitable.
>>>                   "Analects" IV.16, Confucius
>>> 
>>>Robert E. Kibler, Ph.D.
>>>English and Humanities
>>>Director, Northern Plains Writing Project
>>>229 Hartnett Hall West
>>>Minot State University
>>>500 University Avenue West
>>>Minot, North Dakota 58701
>>>telephone: 701 858 3876
>>>e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>>>fax: 701 858 3894
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
>>>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Burt Hatlen
>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:12 PM
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
>>>
>>>I was unable to attend the MLA this year, but I understand from Alec
Marsh
>>>that that there was some discussion of possible Pound Society panels
at the
>>>ALA conference in San Francisco, May25-28. For the past two years,
Tim Redman
>>>has taken
>>>responsibility for panels at the ALA, but Alec reports that this year
Tim
>>>will
>>>be in Europe at the tim e of the conference. It is my understanding
the
>>>Robert
>>>Kibler raised the possibility of a panel on Pound and Islam. Robert,
are you
>>>out there?  Is
>>>this information correct?  If so, is anyone else on this list
interested in
>>>such a panel? I would be interested in putting together a panel on
Pound and
>>>the poets of the San Francisco Renaissance.  If you think that you
might like
>>>to join such a
>>>panel, please send me a message to that effect ASAP. The deadline for
program
>>>listings is January 30.
>>>
>>>Burt Hatlen 
>>>      
>>>
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