Amazing what wonders a good ounce can do.
Parsimoniousness counters usura.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Kibler
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: 2006-Jan-12 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?

   Well well well--I guess you are going to have to come to the ALA if
this panel runs, to satiate that curiosity! For my part, I prefer to
thiink of your (and Pound's) beaneries as sometimes capable of producing
thoughts of a more aromatic kind, and the overall enterprise as
investigating aesthetic and philosophical freedom rather than
petrification--but if I step back from the enterprise even a little, I
see your point. 
  Yet were I to step back too far, I probably would have to shoot
myself, so instead, will gulp some coffee, prep for class, and continue
to measure my works and days by the spoonful. Cheers, Robert K

 
The person of excellence understands what is moral. 
The petty person understands what is profitable.
                   "Analects" IV.16, Confucius
 
Robert E. Kibler, Ph.D.
English and Humanities
Director, Northern Plains Writing Project
229 Hartnett Hall West
Minot State University
500 University Avenue West
Minot, North Dakota 58701
telephone: 701 858 3876
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-----Original Message-----
From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Charles Moyer
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 8:03 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?

Bob,
    Damn you, now you have made me curious. I'm getting too old for this
nonsense. Fucking beaneries and there resulting intestinal gas! So it is
"petrifying ideologies" ( and boy, we got em) that we are really talking
about?

Charlie

"...and the demand that everyone swallow it." -KULCHUR p.53

> From: Robert Kibler <[log in to unmask]>
> Reply-To: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
> <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:31:10 -0600
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
> 
> Well, Pound assuredly read in and of the medieval Islamic
> thinkers--specifically Avicenna and Averroes. Cavalcanti was also an
avowed
> Averroist, and Pound's study of him assuredly brought Pound further
within the
> pale of medieval Islamic thought.  Ernst Renan and Etienne
Gilson--both of
> whom Pound read and with whom he corresponded wrote about Islamic
thought, and
> Renan wrote a lengthy thesis/dissertation and book on Averroism that
is in the
> Pound collection in Austin (I need to get down there to see Pound's
habitual
> underlinings in blue pencil. Stuff in the Beinecke too.).
> More specifically, the Averroist translation of and interpretation of
> Aristotle's "De Anima" corresponds in a general way to how Pound's
combinant
> metaphysics and aesthetics operate--as a process, a forma mentis, a
> Ling--moving in and out of discernible form and reality, and likewise,
in and
> out of the mind of both God and artist, thereby changing the character
of
> created art, perceived reality, and the overall quality of mind
possessed by
> both.  As seen in the Cantos.
> That would be the general drift of it, at 7:30 in the morning. And
Pound's son
> Omar wrote a book of translated Islamic poetry. Don't know if there is
any
> link, but maybe. 
> 
>  
> The person of excellence understands what is moral.
> The petty person understands what is profitable.
>                    "Analects" IV.16, Confucius
>  
> Robert E. Kibler, Ph.D.
> English and Humanities
> Director, Northern Plains Writing Project
> 229 Hartnett Hall West
> Minot State University
> 500 University Avenue West
> Minot, North Dakota 58701
> telephone: 701 858 3876
> e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> fax: 701 858 3894
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Charles Moyer
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:59 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
> 
> Would you care to share any of your depth in this topic with those of
us
> still semiconscious on this list who will have no opportunity to
attend the
> conference and would not find it profitable to do so?
> 
> Charles
> 
> "Without stirring abroad
> One can know the whole world;
> Without looking out of the window
> One can see the way of heaven."
> TAO TE CHING (and this was said before Fox News)
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Robert Kibler <[log in to unmask]>
>> Reply-To: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 06:52:55 -0600
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
>> 
>> I am certainly out here, and would love to participate in a panel
concerning
>> Pound and Islam. I am deep in this topic now. If there are others so
>> interested, I would hope we could make a panel of the topic. Thanks
Burt.
>> Robert
>> 
>>  
>> The person of excellence understands what is moral.
>> The petty person understands what is profitable.
>>                    "Analects" IV.16, Confucius
>>  
>> Robert E. Kibler, Ph.D.
>> English and Humanities
>> Director, Northern Plains Writing Project
>> 229 Hartnett Hall West
>> Minot State University
>> 500 University Avenue West
>> Minot, North Dakota 58701
>> telephone: 701 858 3876
>> e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>> fax: 701 858 3894
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Burt Hatlen
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:12 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
>> 
>> I was unable to attend the MLA this year, but I understand from Alec
Marsh
>> that that there was some discussion of possible Pound Society panels
at the
>> ALA conference in San Francisco, May25-28. For the past two years,
Tim Redman
>> has taken
>> responsibility for panels at the ALA, but Alec reports that this year
Tim
>> will
>> be in Europe at the tim e of the conference. It is my understanding
the
>> Robert
>> Kibler raised the possibility of a panel on Pound and Islam. Robert,
are you
>> out there?  Is
>> this information correct?  If so, is anyone else on this list
interested in
>> such a panel? I would be interested in putting together a panel on
Pound and
>> the poets of the San Francisco Renaissance.  If you think that you
might like
>> to join such a
>> panel, please send me a message to that effect ASAP. The deadline for
program
>> listings is January 30.
>> 
>> Burt Hatlen