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Dear Stoner,
    Yourself is one word, and you're projecting. Also "Relavence"?

Mr. Moyer

p.s. Sorry about the grade, and I wouldn't read those awful broadcasts.
They'll just depress you more like looking at all those hairs that grew in
Emerson's ears. Try that fine rather new collection of Pound's prose. You
can get it at Border's or Barnes and Noble. I almost bought it tonight, but
I have all the pieces in the original volumes except for those selections
from "The ABC of Economics". They have the Cantos two.
    So why do you suppose Nietzsche admired Emerson so greatly?

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>From: Stoner James <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: to, too, two
>Date: Sat, Jan 4, 2003, 9:18 PM
>

> Mr. Moyer,
>
> I sincerely was attempting to find the connection between Emerson and
> Pound, if any; and especially as it relates to their politics.  You have
> presented your self as knowing something about both their politics and
> their poetics.  You actually don't know much about Pound, do you?  You
> seem to no far less about Emerson, and even less about writing; as your
> message suggests.  You cry for substance, but focus on small grammatical
> issues in writing such as, "to, too, two."  As I peruse your prior
> messages I find significant grammatical and careless writing errors that
> go well beyond anything that I have have written.  I still read your
> messages for their substance.  Are you as shallow as your messages
> suggest?  Do you present your self as somebody who understands Pound and
> Emerson, but can answer no question about them, their poetry or their
> politics? I mean this seriously, sir. You want to tell me to go back and
> study Emerson?  I know much, but I will always restudy; always reconsider
> what I've read, go back and go back again.  Tell me what I said about
> Emerson or Pound that requires rereading?  Do you really have any
> substantive feedback or ideas?  Are you merely an imitator, a guy that
> throws out quotes and has nothing else to offer?  Do you live only to make
> this listserve your little oligarchic plutocracy? Over the last 18 months
> I have witness your simplistic diatribes more often than I could ever want
> to (too, two, three, more times than I can count.)  You run people off
> this listserve.  Why do you do that?  These are simplistic question, maybe
> you can answer them?
>
> I do appreciate Tom and Michael's suggestion, though.  I also hope that
> others will help me, if possible.  I will look at his broadcasts.
>
> Mr Moyer, with all due respect, (and I mean this seriously) how exactly
> did you gain so much clout on this listserve?  Why do so many members
> flock around you like you run "Bird hall?"  Maybe you can answer these
> less intellectual questions, to, two, too?  Maybe the members that flock
> aroound you can answer as well?  I guess my initial thoughts; that is, my
> more thought out observations about you are likely true?  Over the past 16
> months I have witnessed you provide this group with nonsense quotes; you
> also have a tendency to shut dialogue down, stop it before it flies over
> your head.  I wonder about their relavence.  I wonder about your relavence
> here on this list serve.  Today, Mr. Moyer, I am an elitist towards you,
> to, too, two.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Jim Stoner
>
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