Charles and Tim

Of course Surette is concerned with the Modernism and the Occult in his
book.  The sub-title is "Ezra Pound, T. S. Eliot, W. B. Yeats, and the
Occult".

I think that anyone who damns a well thought of scholar such as Surette in
the words and phrases that Charles has chosen to use needs to show to all
his qualifications to do so.

Since Charles will not give a page reference for his original quote let me
quote, on the same subject, from the same book.  "The Birth Of Modernism" by
Surette, page 164.

Surette's reference to modern physics fall in arguments about relativism and
the philosophy of relativism.

Page 164.
"At a little higher level of discussion it is sometimes supposed that even
if natural scientists are themselves inclined to positivism and dogmatism,
modern theoretical physics confirms skeptical relativism.  One often hears
Einstein's relativism, Planck's quantum physics, and the Heisenberg
uncertainty principle invoked as evidence that science itself concedes that
positive knowledge is not possible.  Of course, these principled limits on
the accuracy and fineness of information in no way support skeptical
relativism of the appropriate type.  On the contrary, they define the
practical limits of empirical knowledge, and do so without questioning
empirical and Lockean theories of knowledge at all."

Also remember that the real universe is defined by Newtonian physics.  The
flaws in Newtonian physics is what Quantum Mechanics and Relativity Theory
correct by invoking what is sensibly unreal.

Rick Seddon
McIntosh, NM