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Don't worry, Dan, the cure for all our liberal doubts is just around the
corner. We're about to get "10", yes, "10" weeks of old Yiddish "sti(u:)k"
theatre recordings on NPR. OI! So I'm never goingk to laugh zo hard in all
my life?

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>From: Daniel Pearlman <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: internet petition
>Date: Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 11:29 PM
>

> Carroll and Sarab make very nice twins, don't they?
> Each equally objective and balanced in their totally
> unbiased readings of history?
> ==Dan
>
> At 10:00 PM 03/19/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>>Sarab Nihal Singh wrote:
>> >
>> > I would prefer to go to the root cause of this chronic problem mentioned in
>> > Bob's email and sign a petition against Prophet Mohamed for his war crimes
>> > against humanity. He has caused the most ideological and ethnic
>> cleansing in
>> > known history. The psychotic freaks (Aurangzeb, Ghazni, et al) in his
>> > tradition have done worst damage than Israel or US can do in all of Islam's
>> > pathetic, enslaved and oppressive colonies.
>> >
>>
>>I did not respond to Bob's email because at least once before on this
>>list he has confused Jews witrh Zionists -- and that is unacceptable for
>>several reasons. First, though of secondary concern, is that a group of
>>Pound lovers (which I assume most of us are) should be quite careful
>>around the subject of anti-semitism But of greater, and more politically
>>relevant concern, is that the chief, perhaps the _only_ serious weapon
>>in the hands of criminal Zionism (the phrase is really, now, redundant)
>>is precisely the identification of anti-zionism with anti-semitism.
>>Without this protection, Israel would stand revealed clearly to all for
>>what it is and has been -- a criminal state, an ally of tyrannical and
>>racist regimes around the world (e.g., it was, next to the United
>>States, the warmest friend of apartheid South Africa, and it was the
>>conduit for a good deal of U.S. aid to the murderous thugs known as
>>Contras in Nicaragua).
>>
>>Israel's very existence is a crime, and the bloodshed now going on in
>>Palestine is _wholly_ the fault of the Israeli state. Israeli terrorism
>>(the state was born in terrorism and has been a perpetrator of terrorism
>>fever since) is not the only but it is a major element in the conditions
>>that have given Al Quaida terrorists the popular support (or illusion of
>>popular support) that any terrorist organization needs, to maintain its
>>morale if for no other reason: men who could have relatively peaceful
>>and prosperous lives do not lightly throw away those lives as did the
>>perpetrators of 9/11.
>>
>>As for Islam and Muhamed. The post I am responding to is ridiculous, but
>>I'll just focus on a couple of points here.
>>
>>First of all, one might say that Islam was virtually the inventor of
>>religious tolerance, and for a thousand years while Jews were being
>>persecuted in Europe the Islamic countries provided a place of refuge
>>not only for Jews but for "hetetical" Christians. Most of whatever
>>culture medieval Europe possessed they owed to the Arabs and Islamic
>>culture. (Arabic numbers came from India, but it was the Arabs who
>>introduced them to europe.)
>>
>>Secondly, for 50 years the United States has pursued an unrelenting
>>savagery (often using "fundamentalist Muslims as its tool) against every
>>democratic or secular movement in the Middle East and South Asia. It was
>>the U.S. that destroyed Iran's best hope for democracy, Mossedegh. It
>>was the U.S., under Carter, that deliberately interfered in Afghanistan
>>for no other reason that to provoke Soviet interference, and it was the
>>U.S. that was responsible for the virtual wiping out of all secular or
>>democratic forces in Afghanistan.
>>
>>And it is the U.S. and Israel that have been the unrelenting foes of any
>>secular left forces among the Palestinians and have deliberately and
>>with consciously bloody intent encouraged the flourishing of religious
>>fanaticism among the Palestinians.
>>
>>Freedom for the Palestinians will not by itself bring peace to the
>>middle east, but nothing else will either until the rogue state of
>>Israel is brought under control.
>>
>>Carrol Cox
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