michael, actually, ...don't wanna say this too loud, but, this very medium could prove gutenberg-ian,...eh? ep's voice, for e.g., might achieve here a living cogency, ...why not? ever so humble an earnest toward finally beginning to build a humanist community, over against the-nihil of boojwa liberalism, and ... beyond the reach of the thot police ahh...pipe-dreams of a winter eve, eh? bob >-----Original Message----- >From: Michael Springate <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> >Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 10:02 PM >Subject: Re: Getting things dead wrong > > >>Bob, >> >>you are certainly happy to point fingers at "the bad" >> >> ie."the apologists for boojwa lib imperialism", >> >>but can you offer us any historical definition of "the good", >>relevant to identifiable movements today? >