Ben (and Vicki) wrote: >>But, this is really all about personally attacking me. Both Neal and Wodon >>have emailed me in private with personal attacks. >That's plain stupid on their part. This can be debated civilly on here >without resorting to personal attacks. And as list administrator I say: HEAR! HEAR! It IS possible to debate issues without resorting to ad hominum attacks or being abusive to each other. This debate has come perilously close to the latter and has definitely included some of the former. Lets be reasonable, folks. If you feel someone has used faulty logic, then state "faulty logic" and point out why - not "Don't be an idiot" type of response. In the end I think it is fairly obvious that the readers/posters on this list are not going to reach unanimity on this topic. Just be civil to each other. OK? Thanks. Tom Rowe Hockey-L Administrator [log in to unmask] HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.