Yes, winter is icummen in, at least in the northern hemisphere. By way of throwing some conversational fuel on whatever embers are still alive in this list, here's a statement and question about Pound's ancestors. J. J. Wilhelm and others have traced the Pound line, which being Quaker is well attested, back through Elijah Pound I (1712-1780, the first declared Quaker?) to John Pound I of Piscataway, NJ, d. 1691. It is not certain, as far as I know, but this John is probably a descendent of Thomas Pond, transported to New England on the <Elizabeth and Ann>, Roger Cooper, Master, sailing from London April 1635, destination Plymouth. Certificates were brought from the Minister of the Parish and Justice of the Peace, CE. (Source: Hotten, Emigrants to America 1600-1700). Question: Has anyone established a firm link between the immigrant Thomas Pond and John Pound of Piscataway, NJ, or traced any of this line back to its English origins? (I have a letter from a genealogist who speaks of Thomas Pond's antecedents in England, but I'll reserve the contents until I've seen some documentation.) Llude sing Goddamm Wayne Pounds Burt Hatlen wrote: > > I don't think so, but it is pretty cold here in Poundland, Maine. > > B. Hatlen