Having been at Union during the DIII days and watched from day 1 the DI experience, there is a big difference between upsetting a DI school (or a weekend sweep) and playing them every week. I know that was definitely Union's experience the first few years. Anyone who thinks a DIII school can move up to DI with immediate success is kidding themselves. History does just not show otherwise. Almost without exception every school that has made the jump (from either DIII or DII) has taken several years to get their feet under them (and usually with expanded budgets also). And since RIT and Middlebury are getting so much talk, why not Plattsburgh, Elmira and Babson?? All have equally strong history as the other two. It does make for good conversation though! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RIT Author: [log in to unmask] at Internet-USA Date: 12/17/98 10:07 AM > My personal feeling is that RIT is ripe for a move up to Division I. If you think RIT is ready to move I guess Middlebury should already be there, few teams have been as dominate as they have been in the 90's. I remember when UVM use to play Middlebury and Norwich every season. Norwich was usually the opening game and was a blowout but a physical game (you have to know the history of the two schools). Middlebury was usually in December-January and was always a battle. Very good games with Vermont usually winning but I remember an upset in 1990. The victory came after Vermont had a few good seasons in a row. These games were dropped from the schedule in the early 90's. Just as Middlebury was becoming a dominate power in DIII. Too bad these games can't stay on the schedule. The Middlebury-Vermont games were usually very good games. I think Middlebury could finish as high as maybe 7th or 8th in the ECAC now. They would get some good wins too! They are building a new state of the art facility that opens either this season or next. It will sit about 4000 I think. Norwich just finished building their new digs that is really nice. It sits about 2500-3000 I think. HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List. HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.