Ben I've always thought that the goalie has the advantage on a p-shot. I would be surprised to find any organization that has an over .500 scoring % on the shot. Joe ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.