What a great thread! These are subjects and ideas that give summer Hockey-L great value. Thanks to all participating! Some of us tend to look at the state of college hockey as steady and at changes such as emerging programs and conferences as a problem. I see these as validation of the great college hockey experience and am optimistic for all of college hockey. Visionary, philosopher, historian ... we've got them all :-) Thanks Scott, Mike, Dave, Joel, John and others! cheers, wayne Wayne T. Smith Systems Group -- UNET Technology Services [log in to unmask] University of Maine System Co-owner of the College Hockey lists - Hockey-L/Info-Hockey-L/Hockey3 HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.