I wonder why Bob G., whose initial proposal, except for the "Jock U" reference, seemed well meaning if deja vu all over again, has resorted to "humorous" responses or "straw man" arguments ( or did anyone else think Ken was saying Div I should do away with scholarships? Please...) to posts from Ken and Adam which rebutted his suggestions, pointed out discrepancies or asked substantive questions. He has, to be fair, restated or elaborated on his original arguments, but, if he's going to keep the thread going, I for one would like to see him directly address their responses. Yes I've read them And he might want to consider the fact that the average age of freshmen and all college students is increasing.( Both personal anecdotes and Web references available upon request.) >I don't see a level playing surface where, for example, one school with high academics fields a team with an average age of 20.2 >against a competitor of no academic note skating 11 freshmen over the age of 21. A question- could you identify these two schools? My undergraduate degree is from Boston State College, a now defunct school of no academic or athletic distinction. I attended RPI for a year and SUNY at Stonybrook for a year and a half. My grad work was done at BC. And I root for BU... HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.