>>>I don't think the final decision has been made yet regarding the status of those games. From what I read in our local paper, both Michigan State and Clarkson have counted the games in their records while BU has not, and WI is waiting for the NCAA ruling.<<< You're right, still no word yet and it may not come down for months. While I can't speak for Michigan State, Clarkson is definitely not counting these gamse as real ones. All the press notes state that these were exhibition games. Chances are that won't change unless the NCAA says it counts them. You know, you'd think the NCAA could have settled this over the summer. Juan Martinez Clarkson '95 Freelance Hockey Writer HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.