I'm new on this list this year so I never heard of it, but I was a proponent on the Clarkson message board of awarding 3 byes to the west because of the (then) anemic RPI and PWR ratings of the ECAC. Is there some thought to doing like the roundball guys and seeding teams regardless of geography? Of couse I'd like to see a 16 team tournament, too, with 4 regional sites, but that is another thread. Joe Clarkson '77 Go Elmira!!! HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.