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>> "Greg R. Berge" <[log in to unmask]> 02/11/97 02:56pm >>> Attempting to gain advantage by circumventing the rules is cheating. === Sometimes I've looked upon the rule book and tried to figure out what can "I get away with". Witness Roger Nielson, when he was coaching Juniors, put a defenseman out to defend against a penalty shot. The rule book did not say anything about putting a goalie in. It is not cheating, but gamesmanship. Needless to say, the next year the rule was changed. Roger was also the one that put the penalty shot in for deliberate illegal substitution in the last 2 minor or OT. I think he was down 5 on 3 late in a tight game and put 2 more players on the ice. As long as his players did not control the puck, the play continued. When his players touched the puck, it was just too many men on the ice, not a shot. Anyone can play with an illegal stick. Just be prepared for the consequences when you get caught. 'Fess up, feel shame, and serve your punishment. Joe HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.