When you have implications and inferences like this from some of the best and most intelligent people on the list, it's no wonder traffic from some of our best participants is down or missing this year. There's no reason to SHOUT, there's no reason to impugn anyone's intentions and there should be no reason to infer negative intent. However, most of the above happens all too often in most intelligent discussions on this list, even when our good administrators try to conduct a constructive sampling of opinion. C'mon, people. As to the lists, I'd like to see them combined. All my mail comes into the same place, and my delete key works just fine. If a poster uses the subject line well, decision making isn't a problem. One reason traffic is down, I believe, is the diffusion of useful and timely content on a variety of lists and Web sites. Now, to post a question: Michigan is beatable in any given game. With that as a given (even if it is proving unlikely -- just so it doesn't appear I'm bashing Michigan, which I'm not, so don't read anything into the premise, sigh), who has the kind of team or can play the kind of game to challenge Michigan in the NCAA Tournament, from the first round to the Final Four. This may be more a matter of style of play and who can play it rather than who can upset Michigan on any one given day. Personally, if any of my favorite teams can't win, I don't mind seeing Michigan win it all because the style of hockey the Wolverines play is good for college hockey. Steve Klein [log in to unmask] ---------- On Jan 20, 13:12, Charlie Shub wrote: >Art, as usual, has hit the nail right on the head AGAIN. >These lists DO NOT BELONG TO THE ADMINISTRATORS >These lists BELONG TO THE USERS (VOLUNTEER POSTERS and INDEPENDENT READERS) >VOLUNTEER POSTERS put information on the lists >WANNABE DICTATORS try to constrain the VOLUNTEER POSTERS >Lazy INDEPENDENT READERS try to constrain VOLUNTEER POSTERS > (Don't) Put the Score in the Subject line > Post to this list, that list, or the other list > (Don't) talk about X, Y, or Z I was not aware of this issue of "ownership." As an administrator, certainly my aim has not been to put undue and unnecessary constraints on subscribers. If administration is truly viewed as hindering and constraining rather than helpful, I would be only too happy to step aside and let the chips fall where they may, so to speak. I do not wish HOCKEY-L to die of suffocation. (Administrators are volunteers too, by the way) Bill Fenwick HOCKEY-L [ not exactly sure what word is appropriate ] [log in to unmask] -- Bill Fenwick Email: [log in to unmask] Digicomp Research Voice: (607) 273-5900 ext 32 HOCKEY is for discussing Hockey3/Hockey-L/Info-Hockey-L. HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.