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I have seen this floating around hockey-l and didn't give it too much tought, but I'm bored and would like to make a commment.... Does defence or offence win hockey games.....Its been around since the Montreal Canadians that defence wins....I would agree, but I would also like to say the right combination of defence and offence wins. example---New Jersey Devils --1994/95 Cup Winning team...won by mainly using a defensive style (trap), but also had some offense....Guys like Randy Mckay and Claude Lemieux stepped up offensively as well as defensively. Martin Brodeur was solid in goal and the Devils won the cup..... ---New Jersey Devils --1995/96 --Non playoff team.......they still played the same defensive style (trap) that helped tham win the cup...But they didn't make the playoffs loosing to Ottawa on the last day of the season. This team differed in one way from the cup winning team....they had no offense...Guys weren't stepping up offensively.....Steve Thomas led them in scoring and I think he had around 60 points (?) Bill Guerin and John Maclean rounded out the top 3......Stephan Richer was a big scorer the year before and in the playoffs but was about 7th or 8th in scoring in 95/96..... another thread talked about is who wins games GOALS or GOALIES.....again stop your both right......Goalies can steal games for you.....but to win you also have to be able to put the puck in the net..... exaple---US/CANADA World Cup (GAME 3)...not starting a CAN/US war, but Mike Richter stold game 3 for the US...The US was outplayed until late in the 3rd.....Richter was almost in-human......he was amazing....Canada did play the better game, but Richter played better than Joseph...not to say that Joseph played bad, just Richter played that much better...Richter stold the game.....he kept it close and the US got some timely goals at the end of the game to win it....If Amonte and ??? didn't score the game would have most likely been won by Canada.....I'm still pissed off at Claude Lemieux for that stupid clearing attempt that led to the tying goal... In conclusion......its hard to say what is more valuable Offence or Defence or goals or goalies.....it depends on the team and the situation.....Last years Dallas Stars, who were a defensive team didn't make the playoffs....LAte in the year....Bob Gainey a defensive minded coach stepped down and let Ken Hitchcock take over...Over the somer they brought in some key players and are now playing Offensive....Last Year---no playoffs.....this year they are 1st or 2nd in the Western conference.........Its more complicated than offense vs Defence or Goals vs Goalies.....They all tie together...and who ever has the right combination usually wins.... ****************************************************************************** JASON ROY * * CBC's UNIVERSITY OF MANITOBA * * HOCKEY NIGHT IN CANADA [log in to unmask] * * "The Tradition Continues" GO 21 * GO TECH / GO CANADA * * Molson Canadian GO STARS * * GO BILL BERG *** *** The Tragically Hip ****************************************************************************** A loose puck doesn't know who's....BigGeR, StRoNger, or DrAfTed hIgheR. BUT IT KNOWS WHO GETS THERE FIRST. (Bauer CANADA) ****************************************************************************** HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.