Classification: Prologue: Epilogue: Dan Olsen Client Services Representative East Fishkill, NY / Building 504 1J-29 Ph: 8-532-5259 / (914) 892-5259 FAX: 8-532-7588 / (914 )892-7588 Mail: IBMUSM00(DOLSEN) or [log in to unmask] Here's the complete listing for the ECAC coaches poll along with some interesting information regarding last year's poll. 1996 ECAC PRESEASON COACHES POLL 1. Vermont (11) 143 2. Clarkson 128 3. Harvard (1) 116 4. St. Lawrence 107 5. Colgate 96 6. Cornell 85 7. RPI 67 8. Brown 62 9. Princeton 51 10. Dartmouth 37 11. Union 28 12. Yale 16 1995 ECAC PRESEASON POLL WITH 95-96 FINISH 1. Vermont(5) 134 1 2. Colgate(4) 130 5 3. Harvard(2) 123 6 4. Clarkson(1) 117 2 5. Rensellaer 83 7(tie) 6. Brown 76 7(tie) 7. SLU 67 3 8. Princeton 63 10 9. Cornell 61 4 10. Union 39 11 11. Dartmouth 20 9 12. Yale 20 12 Note the format of the poll. No coach can vote for his team as the first place team. First place votes are in parentheses. Teams receive 12 points for a first place vote, 11 for second, etc. Vermont finished with 143 points (a 2nd place vote from UVM's coach). Clarkson received at least 8 of the 11 remaining second place votes. Yale received just 16 votes, which means that at least 8 coaches picked the Bulldogs to finish last. If anyone cares, I'll have to add my picks and 2 cents: Team 95 Poll 95-96 Finish 96 Poll 1. Vermont 1 1 1 2. Clarkson 4 2 2 3. SLU 7 3 4 4. Colgate 2 5 5 5. Harvard 3 6 3 6. Cornell 9 4 6 7. RPI 5 7 7 8. Brown 6 7 8 9. Dartmouth 11 9 10 10. Union 10 11 11 11. Princeton 8 10 9 12. Yale 12 12 12 Vermont still lacks depth, but they don't need it unless they get hurt with Perrin, St. Louis, Thomas, and don't forget Ruid. Clarkson is still solid with White, Houle, Pagnutti, D. Murphy, and a good freshman class - backup goaltending is untested. SLU has all the talent that nobody knows about and a strong presence with Owen between the pipes. Maybe it's just against Clarkson, but Colgate has the ability to be a championship team. Harvard is overrated in the coaches poll, but teams that suffer tragedies sometimes pull off amazing feats. The Big Red showed they have the ability to win the big game, but they are inconsistent. RPI (or is that Rensellaer) fans talked about a rebuilding year last year and they did indeed rebuild but they still won't finish in the top 4. Brown should separate istelf from the bottom four teams, who will fight for the final 2 playoff spots. Yale and Princeton will be collecting the poision ivy at the bottom (some drop for Princeton, which was an up and coming program just two years ago). Go Knights. (Golden and Black) - Bring Army back to the ECAC. HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.