At 9:33 PM -0400 8/13/96, Deron Treadwell wrote: > On 13 Aug 96 at 19:44, Mike wrote: > > > I'm not saying that this is happening, but would it be a NC$$ > > violation for Maine to 'stash' Tory somewhere in order to have him > > the following year? > > This isn't Maine's doing, "stash".. makes it sound like Maine > is trying to get away with something. If Tory chooses to leave and > Tory chooses to come back, it's up to Tory not Maine. Right, and it also depends on where Tory goes. He can't go to another school and sit a year, then come back and play for Maine. Not that that would make sense anyway. But he could, for instance, go to the USHL for a year and then return. Either way, he has only one year of college eligibility remaining. > Secondly, Tory still has a red-shirt year so he could leave and then > come back providing he didn't compete in something that violates > NCAA legislation and would make him lose his eligibility. He could > play for the Canadian National team and return to Maine under NCAA > rules, but it would be his choice and not some "trick" Maine is > trying to pull. And this is something that has happened with other players too, at least those who have gone with the Olympic team. They effectively took their redshirt year during the year they played with the Olympic team. If Tory did spend a year with the Canadian Nationals and then returned, he would wind up completing his three years of college eligibility within the allowed five years. What I am unclear on is how the rules are applied in his case. I believe he entered Maine in 1993 as a nonqualifier (possibly a partial qualifier), which was why he was ineligible that first year and was considered a sophomore in 1994-95 and a junior in 1995-96. Nonqualifiers cannot play in their first season and also lose a season of eligibility. The question is, does the five year clock get reduced to four years if you are a nonqualifier? I don't think so, mainly because of the talk about Tory leaving and then coming back in 97, but I can't find a specific rule that covers this. Maybe because there is none and by default he gets five years. Allison on the other hand was a qualifier, correct? He also entered Maine in 1993, but at the age of 21. He played that year and the next two, and this year would be his senior year. So why can't he also return to play in 97-98 if he spends next year with the Canadian Nationals? What caused him to lose his redshirt year and have to complete all four years of eligibility within four years? Until the change in 14.2.4.5 this year (which raised the age from 20 to 21), he would have only had three years of eligibility, but now that he has four, why does he still not get the same five year window that others get? --- --- Mike Machnik [log in to unmask] *HMM* 11/13/93 ***** Unofficial Merrimack Hockey home page located at: ***** ***** http://www.tiac.net/users/machnik/MChockey/MChockey.html ***** HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.