I've been reading the discussions for a few days now and just thought I'd like to add a cent or two. Many of the posts have caused me to ponder a few questions which I'll throw out to the group. 1) Why does our society (using Hockey-L as a sampling) seem to think that being a nickname for sports teams is such a huge honor? These nicknames are just that. Being one puts you right up there with the previously mentioned "Banana Slugs" and other animals and charicatures. It seems to me a true honor is being the name of the university, which Miami already is. However, this memorializing is a small token after the fact of a society being subjugated by another. 2) Another point seems to be the assumption that the ENTIRE Miami tribe has suddenly changed their minds about this one. Now I would have to assume how decisions of the tribe are made, but if I had to (asssume) I would guess that the leaders are elected in a somewhat democratic process and then they make the decisions based on member input. As we might guess from observing the United States "representative" democratic process, leaders are elected to respresent us. However, once the leaders are elected, many times by a small number of citizens, they can make any decision they wish. In other words, it could be that three years ago a very slight majority (maybe) liked the name, and now a few people have shifted their opinion. Or it could be that the council of three years ago acted against the wishes of the people. Any of this discussion of the tribal opinions or decision process is purely speculative and I don't suppose we'll know the true answer. Dave Naghski University of Cincinnati [log in to unmask] HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.