Matt Wickey commented: <<When I read between the lines of Nat's post...I see him saying that we wouldn't be having this discussion if Minnesota were competitive in any sport other than hockey. Am I reading that wrong>> That's how I had read it :-) and had replied to Nat in private, but just to let the rest of Hockey-L know -- the University of Minnesota *is* competitive in most other sports, both men's and women's. It's just that, for the revenue (and publicity) producers, the only sport where the Gophers seem to do well is ice hockey. (Although pituitary-ball looks promising for next year.) A Gopher sports obverver, Pat Gonzales U of Minn. Press - HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.