I was a bit confused about the guy drilling for freon at the same time he was drilling into the ice to plant the goalpost. [Wish I could do that with oil in my backyard planting :-)] But ... I thought these things were high tech these days and held in place via strong magnets, not requiring drilling and making them slide off to avoid injuries. Is it just the pros who can afford this, or what? Confused in California (what else is new? :-) Tony Buffa RPI '64 HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.