After Colgate's recent flame-out against Cornell and discussion of the last quarterfinal series between the clubs (another Cornell rout in '91), I thought it would be interesting to take a look at the recent Colgate playoff history. The columns represent year, postseason record (in games, not series), ECAC seed and highest round reached. 95-65 0-2 #5 Quarters 94-95 2-3 #4 Semifinals (inc consolation loss) 93-94 0-2 #7 Quarters 92-93 1-3 #8 Quarters 91-92 0-1 #8 Prelim 90-91 1-2 #7 Quarters 89-90 6-2 #1 NCAA Final, ECAC champs 88-89 0-2 #2 Quarters 87-88 0-2 #5 Quarters 86-87 1-2 #2 Quarters 85-86 0-2 #8 Quarters 84-85 0-2 #7 Quarters 83-84 0-2 #8 Quarters 82-83 --------------- 81-82 0-1 #8 Quarters 80-81 1-4 #3 NCAA Quarters, ECAC semifinals (inc consolation loss) I thought that Colgate's 3-11 record in ECAC quarterfinal series (not games) looked pretty bad, so I compared it to the rest of the league in the same span: ECAC team records in Quarterfinals, since 80-81 (note: record by series, not by games) Brown: 2-5 Clarkson: 13-3 Colgate: 3-11 Cornell: 8-3 Dartmouth: 0-0 Harvard: 11-4 Princeton: 1-4 RPI: 7-6 SLU: 6-6 Vermont: 3-5 Yale: 2-7 I'm not sure what this all means. My impression of Colgate over the last 10 years is that the Red Raiders have generally disappointed - with the exception of '89, when Dave Gagnon turned red hot and carried the team to the NCAA final. As an occasional visitor, I find that Starr Rink is the least imposing place to play in the ECAC - maybe that has something to do with it. Colgate is 3-2 at home in the ECAC quarters (by series), however, so Starr may not be the problem. The fact that the Red Raiders don't give athletic scholarships (although as Luiz once mentioned, I believe it is not strictly need-based aid) certainly doesn't help. Yet I can't help but think of past Colgate teams (this year's most obviously) as underacheivers. Any thoughts? Geoff Howell Drop the Puck Magazine HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.