Thanks to Deron for handling this this year, a lot better IMHO than continuing to discuss the regional crossovers. One more suggestion, maybe we can all agree, how about also mutliplying by the contestant's age^2 :-) ?? Tony Buffa RPI '64 and definitely in the seniors bracket HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.