The following are the tiebreaker criteria for the ECAC: 1. Head to Head 2. Record vs. Top 4 Teams 3. Record vs. Top 8 Teams 4. Goal differential, Head to Head 5. Goal differential vs. Top 4 Teams 6. Goal differential vs. Top 8 Teams Based on this I've gone through and tried to figure out who would beat who in the event of a tie. One BIG assumption -- assume that positions 1-4 and 5-8 don't change. (It gets crazy trying to figure it out if, let's say, Colgate swaps with Cornell.) Some of the results seem far reaching, but that's probably because of the unlikely assumptions needed to achieve a tie. For example, see Clarkson-Harvard below. 2/18||Verm|St.L|Clrk|Crnl|Colg|Harv|Brwn|RPI.|Dart|Unyn|Prnc|Yale ----------------------------------------------------------------- Verm|| |Verm|Verm|Crnl|VERM| xx | xx | xx | xx | xx | xx | xx St.L||Verm| |St.L|St.L|St.L| xx | xx | xx | xx | xx | xx | xx Clrk||Verm|St.L| |Crnl|Clrk|HARV| xx | xx | xx | xx | xx | xx Crnl||Crnl|St.L|Crnl| |Crnl|CRNL| xx | xx | xx | xx | xx | xx Colg||VERM|St.L|Clrk|Crnl| |COLG|COLG| xx | xx | xx | xx | xx Harv|| xx | xx |HARV|CRNL|COLG| |HARV|HARV| xx | xx | xx | xx Brwn|| xx | xx | xx | xx |COLG|HARV| |BRWN|BRWN|Brwn|PRNC|BRWN RPI.|| xx | xx | xx | xx | xx |HARV|BRWN| |RPI.|RPI.|Prnc|RPI. Dart|| xx | xx | xx | xx | xx | xx |BRWN|RPI.| |UNYN|Prnc|Dart Unyn|| xx | xx | xx | xx | xx | xx |Brwn|RPI.|UNYN| |Prnc|Unyn Prnc|| xx | xx | xx | xx | xx | xx |PRNC|Prnc|Prnc|Prnc| |PRNC Yale|| xx | xx | xx | xx | xx | xx |BRWN|RPI.|Dart|Unyn|PRNC| Teams in CAPS are certainties in the event of a tie. As for the others, I freely admit that there's room for opinion in the decisions, especially at the lower end of the spectrum. Many, many assumptions were made. But I still think this is representative of the most likely scenarios. The rest of this post is arranged in a similar manner to the PWR rankings spreadsheet. Vermont -- St. Lawrence ASSUME: Vermont ties one game H2H : 1-1-0 vTop4 : Depends on St.L vs Cornell vTop8 : Probably Vermont GH2H : 8-6, Vermont wins RESULT: Vermont probably wins in a tie. Vermont -- Clarkson ASSUME: Vermont loses 1 game H2H : 1-1-0 vTop4 : Clarkson must beat Cornell vTop8 : Vermont wins here RESULT: Vermont probably wins in a tie. Vermont -- Cornell ASSUME: Vermont loses 1, ties 1 H2H : 0-0-2 vTop4 : If a tie occurs, Cornell would win it here RESULT: Cornell probably wins tie. Vermont -- Colgate H2H : 2-0-0 RESULT: Vermont wins tie. St. Lawrence -- Clarkson ASSUME: St. Lawrence ties one game H2H : 1-1-0 vTop4 : Probably St. Lawrence vTop8 : Probably St. Lawrence GH2H : 8-7, Clarkson RESULT: Close call, but St. Lawrence would have to choke BAD to give it to Clarkson. St. Lawrence probably wins tie. St. Lawrence -- Cornell ASSUME: Cornell beats St. Lawrence H2H : 1-1-0 vTop4 : If Cornell over Clarkson, Cornell wins here. vTop8 : Probably St. Lawrence GH2H : Probably tie. GTop4 : Cornell RESULT: 4 more Cornell wins would give it to Cornell. 3 to St. Lawrence. St. Lawrence -- Colgate ASSUME: Colgate beats St. Lawrence, one other St. Lawrence loss H2H : 1-1-0 vTop4 : Colgate must beat Clarkson vTop8 : Probably St. Lawrence RESULT: St. Lawrence wins tie. Clarkson -- Cornell Need Clarkson over Cornell, then a Clarkson loss and a tie elsewhere H2H : Cornell wins unless Clarkson beats Cornell vTop4 : If Clarkson over Cornell, Clarkson wins. RESULT: Tie to winner of March 1 meeting. If a tie, Cornell gets it. Clarkson -- Colgate ASSUME: Clarkson beats Colgate, then get 1 point from Brown/Harvard/Cornell. H2H : Colgate wins unless the prior assumption holds RESULT: Highly improbable to get a tie without Clarkson beating Colgate. If there's a tie, Clarkson wins the tiebreaker. Clarkson -- Harvard H2H : Harvard must win. vTop4 : Clarkson must lose everything, Harvard win everything. Clarkson would then be 2-4-0, Harvard 3-5-0 vTop8 : Clarkson would be 5-7-1, Harvard 4-1-1 RESULT: Highly improbable. But if it happens, Harvard would win the tie. Cornell -- Colgate ASSUME: Cornell loses one game. H2H : 1-1-0 vTop4 : Colgate sweep up north, Cornell 1-0-1 up north, this is tied! vTop8 : Colgate sweep up north, Cornell 1-0-1 up north, this is tied! GH2H : 9-7, Cornell wins. RESULT: Odds are strong for Cornell. Cornell -- Harvard H2H : Cornell wins 2-0-0 Colgate -- Harvard H2H : Colgate wins 1-0-1 Colgate -- Brown H2H : Colgate wins 1-0-1 Harvard -- Brown H2H : Harvard wins 2-0-0 Harvard -- RPI H2H : Harvard wins 2-0-0 Brown -- RPI H2H : Brown wins 2-0-0 Brown -- Dartmouth H2H : Even if Brown loses, resulting in 1-1-0 vTop4 : Brown is 0-3-2, Dartmouth is 0-7-1 RESULT: Brown wins tie. Brown -- Union H2H : 0-0-2 vTop4 : Probably Brown vTop8 : Currently 2-3-1 Brown, 0-5-2 Union. RESULT: Brown wins tie. Brown -- Princeton H2H : Princeton wins 1-0-1 Brown -- Yale H2H : Brown wins 2-0-0 RPI -- Dartmouth H2H : 1-1-0 vTop4 : RPI is 1-5-1, Dartmouth is 0-7-1 RESULT: RPI wins tie. RPI -- Union H2H : RPI wins 2-0-0 RPI -- Princeton H2H : Currently 0-0-1 vTop4 : RPI is 1-5-1, Princeton is 1-5-1 vTop8 : RPI is 0-5-0, Princeton is 2-3-2 RESULT: Princeton probably wins tie. RPI -- Yale H2H : Even if RPI loses, resulting in 1-1-0 vTop4 : RPI is 1-5-1, Yale is 0-7-0 RESULT: RPI wins tie. Dartmouth -- Union H2H : Union wins 2-0-0 Dartmouth -- Princeton H2H : Dartmouth leads 1-0-0 but they still play at Princeton vTop4 : Dartmouth is 0-7-1, Princeton is 1-5-1 RESULT: All rides on Friday's game. Princeton win, Princeton gets tie. The hardest one of the bunch. Flip a coin...Princeton. Dartmouth -- Yale H2H : Yale leads 1-0-0. Assuming Dartmouth beats Yale... vTop4 : Dartmouth is 0-7-1, Yale is 0-7-0. Assuming Yale beats Vermont... vTop8 : Dartmouth is 2-3-0, Yale is 1-6-0. Enough improbables. RESULT: All rides on Saturday's game. Yale win, Yale gets tie. Also hard, but give this one to Dartmouth. Union -- Princeton H2H : Union leads 1-0-0. Assuming Princeton beats Union... vTop4 : Union is 0-6-1, Princeton is 1-5-1. Assuming Union beats Cornell... vTop8 : Union is 0-5-2, Princeton is 1-5-1. Assuming Union beats Colgate... GH2H : Union leads 6-1. Union probably wins it here. RESULT: All rides on 3/1 game. Union win or tie, Union gets it. Princeton is tricky. Let's give 'em this one. Union -- Yale H2H : Yale leads 1-0-0. Assuming Union beats Yale... vTop4 : Union is 0-6-1, Yale is 0-7-0. Yale won't beat Vermont. RESULT: Again, Yale win, Yale gets tiebreaker. Money on Union. Princeton -- Yale H2H : 1-1-0 vTop4 : Princeton is 1-5-1, Yale is 0-7-0. RESULT: Princeton wins tie. -- from: LTJG Kenneth A. Pavelle, NOAA NOAA, National Weather Service Arkansas-Red Basin River Forecast Center My Homepage: http://www.abrfc.noaa.gov/kap.html "Its hard to predict anything, especially the future" -- Yogi Berra HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.