In article <[log in to unmask]>, MR ADAM C WODON <[log in to unmask]> wrote: (comments about the game which I did not see deleted) > The team that has taken grabbing and holding to an artform is BROWN. >I'm sorry no one at Brown can admit this, but I'll stop here, because I >argued until I was blue in the fingers last season. Who holds a lot of >the league penalty minute records? -- It's not Princeton. As a matter >of fact, Princeton is one of the least penalized teams in the league >this year. > > Sorry, but hearing once again the notion that Princeton is a clutch >and grab team (this always only comes from Brown people) drives me >crazy. I have watched about a dozen Brown games in the past year, and I can whole heartedly confirm that Princeton is by far the most clutchy-and-grabby team that I have seen. The past four games at Meehan were all deathly slow, with pushing and pulling and anything else besides playing the puck. I can assure you that this does not happen (to that extent at least) against any other team I've seen. As for Brown taking c+g to an artform, all I can say is that your information is outdated, at the least. The graduation of Traggio and Thompson last year practically cut the grabbing in half. And your association of c+g with penalties is frivolous- ECAC refs rarely call those kinds of penalties, compared with other more physical or stick-related activities. -- - Andrew Brecher ([log in to unmask]) <insert disclaimer here> HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.