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When I first read Sean's post about reasonable expectations, I said to myself...self...this has Clarkson written all over it. I originally sent this directly to Sean, but after reading other tales of NOT being able to win the big one, I thought I would share it with everyone. ---- forwarded message ---- I have to think Clarkson (my biased opinion) could be the definitive program for having an above average, dare I say 'elite', program every year without EVER winning it all (at least Michigan has won a championship before). Clarkson has over 1000 wins, one of the best (if not the best) all-time winning percentage in D-1 history, 35 out of 36 appearance in the ECAC tournament, dating back to the pre-HE days, and several NC$$ appearance across 4 the decades (from the mid 60's, the early 70's, the early 80's and the 90's). Yes, it's exciting year in and year out to know you are going to be in the fight to down to the wire, yet frustrating to keep coming up empty. Winning the ECAC tournament in '91 (and again in '93) ended a 25 year drought in the league tournament. However, one NC$$ championship to get the monkey off Clarkson's back would be nice. Clarkson has lost in the finals 3 times ('62,'66,'70). Whenever the topic of college hockey is discussed, every RPI alumni I know, and I worked with a lot of them, throws that 1985 Championship (not to mention the 1954 Championship) out. There is NO comeback for that one. Kevin Powers Let's Go TECH!! Clarkson '88 '90 '92 '9??? HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.