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I was so glad to see Dr. Shouldice's name brought up in this discussion, and so sorry to hear about his death. With any program, there are always people of foresight. Dr. Shouldice was certainly that at Lake State. Steve Klein [log in to unmask] ---------- This post, last week, made me think about Dr Kenneth Shouldice's contributions. Learning of his death later in the week, I wish I had found the time to reply. It seems unlikely that Lake State would ever have achieved its level of program, if they still had to compete(and get ice time) in a tiny facility on the other side of Sault Ste Marie. Dr Shouldice, then president of LSSC, managed to get funding for the Norris Center in the mid 70s, when state funding was very dear. He deserves credit formany of the schools successes. HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.