A couple of quick notes regarding Luiz's and Greg's posts. I am with Luiz 100%--Rob Hearn is a great ref. Maybe the best in college hockey. Rob is doing AHL games, and I think he is a realistic candidate to make it up to the NHL, if he so desires. I am trying to remember how tall he is, but I think he is 6'+ so he should have a chance. Although I am an Enginer fan, I would like to nominate Campanelli. He turned in far and away the worst job of officiating this year. I hate to admit it, but Pierre doesn't seem to have improved. Maybe it's just that he blends in a little better now. Campanelli would certainly do justice to the Belanger trophy. Also, has anyone noticed that the ECAC refs seem to be getting greener and greener? I don't think I have ever witnessed a season where there seem to be so many refs I have never seen before. Is there a large turn-over in officiating this year? As for Noeth, well you always get what you expect. ********************************************************************************* Brian Morris RPI Engineers--Beat Princeton [log in to unmask] HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.